O'Connell 26. Louisiana is one hundred apologetically AFRICAN roots. They account for a lot of the Irish sounding names in the south, whether they were Scots names, or co opted Irish names, they do not belong to the Irish family system. They got to keep their last names because they were easy to pronounce.. Its common sense guys. slaves thus we have Irish names like McFadden, McDonalds ~ I think you will find McDonals is a Scottish name. The Romans anyone? What yall ;need to figure out is why this history has been buried and who is gaining from that. Could the Irish in specific have something to do with what the most High is doing in (phisical) (black) Israel? that is not true they are mixed rihannna the singer her father is of irish desent . & why St.Patricks day is arguably one of the most celebrated holidays on the island. Black Irish - Who Were The Black Irish? - IrelandInformation.com No one forced them to commit a crime. The Irish and Scots-Irish did indeed own slaves in America and many of their emancipated slaves took their surname. Murray 19. Its effect with regard to the subject of slavery on a whole only minimizes the atrocities of slavery and bigotry. What is there for any of you to gain by denying the atrocity of the abuse of the Irish? What I will do is to remind you that GOD gave us all an ability that sets us apart from lower animals and that is the ability to reason, use common sense instead of instinct, as lower animals do. My theory contrary to the hypotheses here is America has made any skin color not light or white a lower lifeforms hence Irish are white Im I wrong. Kelley Name Meaning & Kelley Family History at Ancestry.com In its conception, Ireland was made up of kin groups or clans. The Mac prefix translates to the son of and is commonly seen in Irish surnames, as well as Scottish. Black slaves were the alternatives because they could bear these conditions, and also knew farming techniques which they carried with them to the New World. I can trace my Ancestry on my Maternal Grandmothers (Fathers) side of the Family Tree back to Ireland. You also havent delved into how racism could have played into how African and Irish slaves were treated. In the middle east a milder form of it still exists. My only counter comment would be that slavery still exists in 21st century US through its prison industrial complex .. After they were freed, when their slave trade ended, they were made overseers, given african slaves, made to believe they were part of the white establishment. Irish Names & Surnames - Irish Family History Centre Or was it an indirect outcome of the permition of owning slaves? The next great influx came from Northern Europe, with Viking raids occurring as early as 795 A.D. Enough is enough. People dont make it to age 40 there. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. It was these conquerors who sold off the conquered to the Europeans. These last names chosen were often those of Union soldiers whom were primarily Irish. Or was the heaten allowed to do this in a kind of prophetic way? Hackett was later hung for what he did. The term " black Irish " refers to persons of Irish descent who are supposed to be descendants of the Spanish Armada, which sailed around the middle of the 15th century, and had dark hair and or eyes. In fact he intimated that the conditions were at least just as bad when he said, We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.. Do you still have your list of sources? On This Day: Arthur Guinness, founder of the Dublin brewery, died in 1803. This article is not stretching the truth, it is flat-out lying to you. Others you may not be as familiar with outside of Ireland are Whelan ( Faolin in Gaelic) and OKeeffe ( Caoimh in Gaelic). However, this isnt auditing who had it better and who had it worse!!! The Scottish Picts and Celts certainly had darker skins than the invading Anglo-Saxons who may have given them that nickname. American comedian, political commentator, and television host William Maher is one of the most well-known Mahers. I have always found that a fascinating sociological subject, whether its worthy of study is doubtful. Even though our histories converged and should have caused extended cooperation between the groups, Irish Americans have become stereotyped as extreme racists. Even to this day many still believe that Irish slavery only affected a few thousands. because of there race ? In fact, many of today's common Irish names have origins in Gaelic, Celtic, or Norse languages. Irish indentured servants were not emancipated. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. I was born in Jamaica & was told a little about this by an Irish funeral director. If you look at it carefully enough, you will see how the Irish escaped their persecution and went into the hills to make their own way, and still do. The Irish were brought over as indentured servants. It is claimed that the Spanish married into Irish society and created a new class of Irish who were immediately recognizable by their dark hair and complexion. Actor, director, and screenwriter Scott Foley is the most famous person by the name Foley. I am black American and have African indentured servants in my lineage. Dont continue to nourish the seeds of bigotry by oversimplifying complicated historical issues and happenings into Blacks and Whites or any other shade of color. Therefore, this preposterous on-going debate only goal is to keep the Blacks monopolizing the atrocious history of slavery. Did the heathen of the earth not only enslave the physical Israelites, (those being blacks and Native Americans), everyone in my family has Irish last names and when looking at my family tree, the ones who are listed as mulattoes in my family have no father listed, but have their mother listed as negro. THATS why many Irish treated blacks in America and its also why many blacks treated Irish badly. Much of their strange language is left over from the Gaelic that once was spoken widely in those hills. Its like saying, Im personally offended by you not because of your genetics but because of your race!. Why do we continue to ignore the pain of others? Working is a choice and they get paid for their work. They resented having to serve in the civil war and dis honored black soldiers but they fly Confederate flags proudly. The South seceded from the Union because they wanted to keep their slaves that provided them with human field animals, human sex toys and the freedom to do anything they wanted with their human property. Black History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms - HouseOfNames Gee, did the Irish ever make whisky? A quick review of Irish history reveals that the island was subject to a number of influxes of foreign people. The Irish were endentured servants. The English Welsh and Scottish peoples all suffered by the hands of the elitist British. Healy Hall. There are points of contention with this article dont get me wrong, Im debating the who suffered which is not really a secret except it seems in the white-washed Protestant nation that is the United States to which many Blacks seem to be connected with. My grandfather gave me His name..I lived with him in the flesh Personally, I am offended not by the story and the facts, but by the dishonest comparison. Top 100 Irish Surnames From Each County In Ireland look im from ireland we are not racist people. You see Irish people as part of your oppressors because they have the same skin colour, and you resort to the exact racial slurs and derogatory comments that the white English used against them the same white English that oppressed YOUR ancestors. Thank you. The Cromwell era, which saw a few thousand Irish servants brought to Barbados, is where most of this false narrative is focusing on. While it at various stages was almost certainly used as an insult, the term "Black Irish" has emerged in recent times as a virtual badge of honor among some descendants of immigrants. The main difference is that 600,000 people died in a civil war to end Black slavery, not Irish indentured service. We highlight the most inspiring experiences Ireland has to offer. They include Ardagh, Athy, Bray, Kelly, Sutton, and a few others. Yet, as a subject of historical discussion, it is almost never referred to in Ireland. Also, this foolish comparison fails to acknowledge the differences between indentured servitude and real slavery. The first slave owner in the colonies was Anthony Johnson, a black African. Third, the names come from the Scots-Irish slaveholders. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. Take a look inside Dublin's most stylish townhouse, Number 31, JFK's words remind us of the true meaning of St. Patrick's Day. The native Irish spoke Gaelic. They were opposed by the native Irish (as they still are today), and as compensation given land and status in the New World. But during the times of slavery in America the Irish people (in Ireland) were subjected to the penal laws, which I suspect were similar the the Jim Crow laws. One man and two kids made it. The Vikings were often referred to as the "dark invaders" or "black foreigners." No, most of them could not read most of them did not know what was going on beyond a three block radius. His name is Liam Hogan or should I say Lord Hogan lol. Disgusting lies like this are akin to Holocaust Denial, and its no surprise that one of the authors circulating this myth, Michael Hoffman, is in fact an outspoken Holocaust Denier. The term Black Irish has been in circulation for centuries, with Irish whiskeys such as Mariah Careys Black Irish cream liqueur and Northern Ireland-based Darker Still Spirits Company Black Irish Whiskey even naming their products after the term. First of all, the reason for the Civil War was the Confederates secession from the Union. There were three waves of Irish immigration to America, the 17th century Irish slaves described above, the 18th century Irish immigrants who settled along the Appalachian frontier and were shepherded by Presbyterian ministers because Catholic priests had a 5 pound bounty on their heads, and the mostly Catholic 19th century immigrants who settled in cities and took over the Democrat Party. Black people with names with Mc in them likely acquired them in one of four ways: they could be descendants of slaves who were owned by an Irish or Scottish slaveowner. Groups of the French invaders landed on Irish shores, bringing with them new customs and characteristics to native Irish people and Irelands culture. I have been enjoying ancestry. Word of warning: My commentary rivals the original article in length. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat. As English rule in Ireland intensified at this time, it became increasingly difficult to find work if you had an Irish sounding name. The article highlights the horrors that happened, The extent of which is nightmarish. and; One last point, as a professor in irish studies.here are some accredited sources on irish slavery, you shouldnt get your sources from Wikipedia or any other non accredited website!!!!!! Irish whiskey producer Black Irish has agreed to rebrand and sell its name to singer Mariah Carey's cream liqueur brand following a two-year legal battle.
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