Great idea, I've got a foam insulated shop its extremely air tight. What about venting it through the roof?
I guess I need to get started on mine. But just a box and fan no design I think would have the opposite effect. I laughed at it but it was very functional. I was looking at a 6 inch output bore squirrel cage one I have but decided the 1.5hp motor on it would be overkill. Use one of the Silverstone grills as a template to cut a square of filter material and poke the mounting holes A vent could be run up into the attic and then out the roof. That's it. You can buy a fume extractor for less than the cost of the enclosure specced here. This stain relief will protect your connections should the cord get pulled or yanked. Unplug the power cord Been there done that! Simple and cheap! on Step 6, 8 years ago I had a smallish dust collector sitting around and put a sheet metal reducer on one end and ran the other into a chimney.
working on a fume extractor myself, but of a bigger scale, kind of like a welding booth about 8' wide, and 3' deep. The filter system may not be as simple as I originally thought.
Between breathing it and using it to clean off resin from my hands when building a boat - OUTSIDE, I ended up in emergency room twice with final in intensive care with chemical poisoning with organs shutting down. I'll have to ponder that one All times are GMT-6. Shop volume would be key if you are planning to move air in the entire shop. Plug the power cord into an outlet and test the fan and switch The foam "filter" that's used to keep dust out of your computer case will not capture the nastiness that soldering produces. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011J6JCN4.
Im in love with this stuff. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. How about something with a wider mouth feeding into the flex? The smoke rises slow enough that it can be directed towards the hose from the suction. Mount the filter sandwich and the fan in the enclosure with the lid screws included with the enclosure. I used a .75" .5" shank drill bit which is a little small for the switch. Like size and shape. 7 years ago Clean and remove all dust, oil, and dirt from the surface to be painted. This is a really nice looking fan, think it's about time I build myself one! I'm very new to the idea of needing such a fan and wonder if a hobbyist who uses some organic solvents (read acetone for smoothing 3-prints) would be safe since acetone is such an ugly vapor? i probably will use one of thease though. Just working in a 6x6 ft area of it and try to evacuate the fumes from that area with a hose hanging down close to the work. I like the control knob, very responsive. I thought this machine would be great for nail fume extraction. No issues. Thanks for the quick reply. I am a nail technician.
I would have loved a similar box with about half the depth. I've spent too much time breathing the stuff that emanates from the tips of soldering irons. I could put some lacy stuff around it for her. The inside didn't seem to bad, but I vacuumed it out anyway. This page was generated at 12:01 PM.
If itdidn'tturn out that way, at least it would be my loud, expensive, and low air flow fume extractor. on Introduction. I can watch all the smoke getting sucked into the hood. Just dont know if 200 cfm is enough. Adjustable optimized 6000 RPM high suction fan is low noise and allows you to remove fumes 5-6 inches away. Very hi-tech.
Number of days since last accident on this site: 0. I was thinking of making a hood like a stove range hood only larger (like my table size) but thought maybe it doesn't have to be so big? The other day I dipped my soldering iron in tip cleaner/tinner and got a nice plume of smoke right up my nostril. I haven't measured the airflow but it looks like the Silverstone grills are much more restrictive than the chrome grill.
It was a close call.
Thought about a shop vac too, and might have to go that way. I was searching for something like this for a long time. on Introduction. I looked at a Miller but I liked that the Esab came with the Tig setup included. That does look very good for the budget. Replacement filters: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WG24L8Z/, Assembly Instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EW8sMxegnw. WARNING: This project requires making AC power connections. Bring it back again! I've been looking a vent fans but I didn't want to cut a big square hole in my shop.
But it has very good weather hardening and superior extension cord and 120 volt capabilities. The chrome grill is on the exhaust side of the fan, but why not? And sticking a fan at the window just don't work. Homer what do you expect to catch with furnace filters other than solid contaminants, i think smoke will go thru with no effect, i know for sure that for paint shops it let the solvent odors thru. Works pretty well. I ordered the same box (Hammond 1415D 6x6x6 Steel Enclosure). Quick question. Follow the directions on the can and allow the paint to fully dry It is made by a very sturdy material, makes it feel premium. It has been freezing here and I have been welding with the doors of the shop open. Thank you so much for the info man Ill have to look into it a bit more but I really appreciate ya. Didnt notice any problems w/ it drawing away shielding gases. Thanks for the comments. Great idea.
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If you always weld in the same position then a fixed extraction funnel should work, otherwise you should look at building or buying some kind of movable / articulated hose. I put some chassis grease on the joints and snugged them up good. I drilled my switch hole too far back and it was a bit of a pain to modify the fan, etc. Finding a suitable enclosure was difficult for me.
Would appreciate any thoughts or experience on this to make sure I get something that will work.
Other than being on the hokey side and requiring some safety vigilance the vac does work well. Im happy with how this project turned out.
Separate and strip the fan cords conductors No breeze interference for the shielding gas but good extraction of the fumes?
I installed a vent hood above the welding table. The CA Cascades in the shadow of Mt. 24 inch flexible tube, Fume hood can adjust direction according to actual needs. Use mask or other precautions.
I have to be honest, I have no idea what it was originally intended for.
Suction: 40W, 6000 RPM, 52CFM, Noise Level: 55dbm, Life Expectancy: 50,000 hours, Static pressure: 125mmH2O. on Introduction. Install the lid/fan assembly, switch, and ground wire I have an attic above the garage. Insert the .25" wire grommet into the power wire hole on the enclosure
GG, what you have going on there is exactly what I am looking for, for the amount of times I will be doing this. Stick the self-adhesive rubber feet to the bottom of the enclosure. You'll also need a flameproof hose and some kind of funnel and a way to mount it over where you weld (fumes go up, not sideways!). I was stick welding and there was a fair amt of smoke. I do not plan to do heavy enough work to flood the whole shop with fumes as I know what I am trying to do will not work. I got in touch with them, they will send me a new box with both lids and screws. Perfect size not to big or to small. I had a small powder coating business for about 7 years and our powder/paint booth had a series of internal filters in a plenum and a hepa filter system on the top and that worked really well, but it wasn't cheap so I'm guessing that I'm kinda stuck where I am. I would assume so, but if I place the head 10" up in the path of the fumes I think it's OK. Cut the C13 (computer plug) off of the IEC power cord Mount the fan and chrome grill on the back lid with the 2 #8-32 screws and nylon lock nuts. The ESAB has the most configurable settings but a smaller dealer and support network than the Miller and a weird pedal connector which can complicate using button controlled TIG. Very good. I could taste that crap in my LUNGS, such a bad menthol/chemically taste ugh.
I put a pvc shower drain fitting in an old galvanized oil pan to use as the hood.
Does it pull shielding gas away if you get too close? I had some thumb screws laying around that I thought would make the fume extractor look more awesome and make changing the filter easier. The Fronius has the ability to feed aluminum with no spool gun but the TIG is not very configurable and the dealer and support network is extremely small. The arm is held in place by the friction of the bolts.
Im wanting to get one but Ive heard good and bad about them. All times are GMT-6. This DIY fume extractor does the job and it's a great addition to my work bench. I hate a dirty garage. I have a dust extractor that i have not really used at all. as yet. --- RJL ----------------------------------------------. Non ducted kitchen fans may have some activated charcoal filters could that work? I think it would look great over there. Im amazed at how the Rust-Oleum Hammered finish turned out. Mount a Silverstone grill on the other enclosure lid using the 1.5" #8-32 screws and nuts Would it be possible to use the second grill that you got instead of the chrome wire grill on the intake side of it though?
Thanks for the idea. 9 years ago Secure the Silverstone grill with 4, #8-32 wing nuts i am using just a simple pc fan with filter from cooking extractor and a grill protector. I think if I put one of these in the middle, 1 above my welding table and 1 above where I got my plasma cutter and vent them all to the same place outside the shope it will work.
Has anyone made a hood for over their welding table and connected a blower to exhaust welding fumes outside of the building? Strip the outer insulation off of a sufficient length of the power cord to expose the insulated conductor wires JavaScript is disabled. Soldering Smoke Absorber, Electric Iron Welding Fume Extractor Soldering Smoke Absorber Remover DIY Fume Extractor Filter with Strong Suction. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. If there's no functional reason to have it be that deep, I be inclined to try to build a thinner one and perhaps mount it on a gooseneck or something similar. You could build a stand for it and you'd be all set. Leave enough space to clear the 1.5 thick fan. I just remove the filter from the vac and turn it on and off with a foot switch. Let me just run that past the wife and see how see likes it. The reason I was looking at a bath fan was that I could mount it on the ceiling and leave it there,hard duct it outside, have to fab a new lid on the suction side as I know a tinner, with probably a 4" nipple to hook a flexible hose to get close to my work. The Miller has the easiest process switching but uses funky proprietary TIG hookup and lacks some configurability and hardening against the elements of the ESAB. Thanks Ron. Thanks. I may be missing it, but what is keeping the arm in place? 1/4 Wire Grommet
to get it all to fit.
Please give it the diligence it deserves. Since I use it almost every day, I added to this unit a dc foot pedal operated on and off switch. Luck was on my side this time and I dont have to deal with any remorse. Drawback is pumping your heat out of the building with the smoke. nice, what the the blower come from? nice design. Professional firefighter (retired). 2022 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners.
JavaScript is disabled. The only detriment that I can see from the reviews is the db levels. Thanks for the replies everyone. Probably a good idea to do that every time I use it since I have the GUV vacuum system in my garage. Still very pleased with it.
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But the only reason it works so well is that I set up the hood directly behind and very close to the weld. Determine which fan mounting bolt is going to hold the ground wire and remove the paint from the fan in that area
I like well enough. Theres more than a couple improvements that I could make and more than a few things I could have added at the beginning, but keeping it simple helped get it done. I try to keep the garage door open about a foot or two and use a little fan but the smoke still gets all over everything and my feet get kinda cold on those really cold days. Removing the mesh looks like it would improve the airflow a bit.
Looking for some ideas for a diy fume extractor for working in my shop in the winter all closed up with the heat on here in NE Ohio. Find the center of each lid and layout the locations for the fan and grill mounting holes Reply If your switch hole is just big enough, it can be difficult to pop the switch in and out. Great timing. WOW great work, how did you cut the 4.5" holes? This setup is for stick welding in the winter when the doors are closed. Works great!! It was given to me by my father in law who is the type of guy that's acquired lots of tools and industrial stuff. good idea now im thinking about building one. Pass the cord through the wire grommet from the outside of the enclosure and pull through a good length of cord Smart of you to extract the welding fumes at the table level and not suck fumes past the breathing zone.
Make sure everything fits. Mount the fan and the chrome grill on the back lid leaving the nylon lock nut intend for the ground connection loose Looked on You Tube and got some ideas.
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I will be making this when the other parts come in the mail. 8 years ago Layout the holes for the power switch and power cord on the enclosure. The enclosure was by far the most expensive part in this. In the summer months I work with the doors open, but when it's cold I don't want to lose all the heat. And you are right, it is a pita to set up and the vac is loud. Very nice looking project! If everything fits and works up to this point, disassemble everything and get ready for paint. Glad you found it useful. So come on from there! What I like about this unit is that it is much much less noisy than all fume extractors that I have owned. You must log in or register to reply here.
Scuff the entire outside surface of the enclosure and lids with Scotch-Bright to help the paint adhere to the surface. I use it to provide make-up air for the wood stove and the welding hood exhaust.
I'm tired of the smoke from my welding practice getting all over everything in my garage (not to mention my lungs!). I hung mine in the garage with modified wire clothes hangers after blowing the dust out the door, and off the parts, with a compressor Slide the filter down the 1.5" #8-32 screws and place the second Silverstone grill on top
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Mine certainly moves a lot of air. I appreciate every ones input! The fan speed is adjustable. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Look at computer fans which go from around 50mm to over 300mm for the servers cooling, you don't neeed to overdo the suction as many make this mistake and it sucks the shielding gas away, you just need enough suction for it to remove the fumes but not the sheilding gas. The picture shows lids to accompany the box, but mine arrived without lids.
if its a freeflow fan reducing size pipe wont improve the suction it will reduce the airflow. Last winter I did a few projects where the amount of smoke and dust in the shop felt unsafe, so I knew I needed something. Very nice! Would recommend for nail industry too! Working temperature: -2060, Power consumption: 120V-240V, 40W ( 12V, 4A Power supply). A big thank you to all of you for your help and advice. I would also be painting these items.
Nice. It works real good for work I do on the bench but otherwise I'd need an extension or a wheeled unit. It's pretty loud, and definitely over powered, but it works great and overall the setup for me was pretty cheap.
RNeumann, thanks, I do have opposing windows in my shop along with the 2 overhead doors, so I can crack the back window for the makeup air. I drilled out the original lid holes in the enclosure and tapped them for the thumb screws. My garage is usually cleaner than the house and all that smoke has been killing meliterally!
I think the smoke rises but the shielding gas does not. Reply
I haven't really beat on it yet. Naturally, I would put it on her side of the garage.
I didnt expect it would be thats powerful. :), 9 years ago Tie a knot in the power cord to prevent it from being pulled out the power cord hole and grommet. If itdidn'tturn out that way, at least it would be, Cooltron AC Axial Fan 120mmx120mmx38mm 110 CFM 2600 RPM, 2 x Silverstone Fan Filter with Grill 120mm, 16A 125V DPST Rocker Switch E-Switch RR812C1121 or equivalent, Arduino Robotic Arm Controlled by Touch Interface. 4 x #8-32 Wing Nuts I was originally thinking about a hood as well. The reducer was about 8"-10"x6". IEC Power Cord (Computer Power Cord) I had to mess w/ placement a bit tho. Lassen. I am going to do something like this but don't want to reinvent the wheel so to speak Maybe like this one from a couple weeks ago? In the summer time a simple fan blowing out a window or even set up in the overhead doorway or entry door would work. flingwing 1969, thanks, I should have stated my shop is 24x32 insulated, drywalled and has heat.
Trailblazer 302 * Millermatic 212 * Syncrowave 180SD * X-Treme 12VS Feeder * Spoolmate 3035, http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtalad.php?t=37938, http://www.facebook.com/cary.urka.urkafarms, If this is your first visit, be sure to http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180522&showall=1. This is my vent system. 4 x #8-32 Nylon Lock Nuts Nice clean and compact. I have a squirrel cage blower and was looking more into the hood aspect of the DIY project. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. on Introduction. Im looking forward to see it in stock again. That's a great setup you have. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Pass all four wires out the power switch hole, add shrink tubing to all four wires, and solder in the switch (consult the switch data sheet and/or pin out the switch with a multimeter to ensure a proper connection) Looked into making some kind of anglepoise system with counterweights but decided this would be simpler and easier. I fitted a ducted fan to pull fresh air from outside, ducted to where I usually weld but with the ability to be unclipped and directed elsewhere. Done all three processes it's capable of, mig, Tig, stick. Amateur everything else I try to do http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D4VUGEOLGPVHY3, http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-tor-97762.html, http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/se2332/C2328.oap, If this is your first visit, be sure to But, if you have a fan and enclosure in your spare parts bin, this would be a good use of them! Worked really good! 6 years ago, Acetone can kill you. check out the. Strip all three of the power cord conductors Bill of Materials:Cooltron AC Axial Fan 120mmx120mmx38mm 110 CFM 2600 RPMCarbon Filter Material2 x Silverstone Fan Filter with Grill 120mm120mm Chrome Fan GrillHammond 1415D 6x6x6 Steel Enclosure16A 125V DPST Rocker Switch E-Switch RR812C1121 or equivalent Now that's something that's feasible. That looks like it should work nicely. After checking out the available fume extractors, I thought I could do better putting something together myself. nice job! Strip the ground wire and install the eyelet For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Drill holes for the power switch and cord.
Sucks the smoke up. Is it just tightening the bolts at the joints or something else? I want to do something like that over my welding table. JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Thinking about getting a 150 or 200 cfm bathroom fan, ducting outside, and then hang a hose down close to the work area. Depending on how your enclosure fits together, at this point you might want to make some notes on the back of the lids and inside of the enclosure denoting top, bottom, front lid, back lid, etc. Assemble the filter sandwich and install the front lid I can weld down there and not set off the fire alarm that is down there or get fumes upstairs with the door open to let some heat up from the stove.
Rather than struggle with the switch, I ran the power cord that came with the fan out the switch hole so I could power the thing up. Right in the center of my "shop" floor I have a drain which is vented to day-light. I noticed that after I was finished welding that the center fan had caught quite a bit of soot on the outside of the grille.
you have given me a great idea all you guys and thanks. Thanks for the cheap idea! I don't think I can justify a hole in the garage door, but I did think about cutting one in the outside wall though. I am talking like a foot or 18" stuff.
I was looking for something I could just leave up, and would be quieter than a shop vac running.
You must log in or register to reply here. 5 years ago, Depends on the shape and of course if there is another port on the enclosure, but yes just look at what a ducted fan can do compared to a regular propeller or even a jet engine for that matter both are shrouded like an enclosure. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Some good points there. I'll be starting a new trailer build soon, and with the weather in the 5*F range ain't nobody going to weld with the doors open. I've spent too much time breathing the stuff that emanates from the tips of soldering irons. Not fun. check out the. Paint the parts in a well-ventilated, well lighted, area. After checking out the available fume extractors, I thought I could do better putting something together myself. Reply I think commercial extractors are high volume low pressure. Sure.
Also, you need to be sure that your airflow is great enough that you're really getting all of the fumes.
Press J to jump to the feed. 4 x 2 #8-32 Machine Screws Now if only I could get my wife to stop parking in my shopthat way I'd have room for a few more tools! I made something years ago now. :-/, 6 years ago Nice job. Very nice Filter. I was hoping at the very least to be able to keep the fans clean by trapping what I could in front of them. I might remove the mesh from the inside grill as you've suggested. My question being if the box came with or without lids? Works for me though, doing my little stuff, and much better than looking out the window at the cold and snow wishing it was warm enough to enjoy some welding out there. I opened up the hole and cut the keyway by filing out the extra material. Does putting a fan into an enclosure produce more airflow? Yeah mine came with lids and screws for the lids. Also, a question about the form factor: is there a reason that you chose an enclosure with as much depth as that one, or did it just happen to be the best fit? This is definitely a game changer for me. I just wish I was rich and not so handsome! He had hooked the hose to a 3'x3' 6" deep pan over his bench. You can also use a PSU unit, just reverse the fan and you have an instant fume extractor and a nice bench supply for your electronic projects. 4 x #8-32 Nuts I washed down the garage last week and now it should stay clean. That would work.
Looks great man! Cut a 4.5 hole in the center of each lid, and drill the grill and fan holes Now you can breathe easy while soldering. This page was generated at 01:02 PM. Because soldering fumes are composed of both tiny particles and gasses, you need both a HEPA particulate filter as well as an activated carbon filter to neutralize the respective threats.
4 x 1.5 #8-32 Machine Screws Self-Adhesive Rubber Feet. Realistically, for the hobbyist who isn't soldering all that often, (OSHA inspectors, please skip to the next paragraph) you can probably skip the math for the airflow requirements and just go with "if I can't smell it, it's probably not hurting metoo much." Ths is my welding fume extractor which I build a couple of years ago. You might also consider a standard filter in front of the HEPA filter to extend the HEPA filter's lifespan.
I've been thinking about building something like this. Share it with us! Makers remorse is always better than buyers remorse. Looks good, and for $70 your a fraction of a pre made setup. I'm debating replacing the Silverstone grill on the inside of the filter sandwich with a chrome grill, but I'm uncertain if it will seal the filter adequately. on Introduction. How do you like your esab? I didnt use anything as big as a stove hood tho. Don't take risks that might end up hurting you or someone else. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This is a solidly built fan, metal and heavy housing.
Easy to replace filter, Includes one replacement filter. So as I am learning about this, is 200 cfm enough to evacuate my 6x6 ft area I am working in, or is there another type of fan I could use to do it, or would I have to get into a shop vac. When I stick weld it covers the place with smoke. I needed something that was sturdy and with 6" ends on it and the Hammond box was really all I could come up with.
Probably not OSHA compliant but neither is any thing about my little basement shop. Thanks. You know, put a cap on it like ya do for a furnace or stove. Cut the fan connector off the power cord that came with the fan with a little more than enough wire to reach the switch
KOTTO Soldering Smoke Absorber, Electric Iron Welding Fume Extractor Soldering Smoke Absorber Remover DIY Fume Extractor Filter with Strong Suction. I made sure the switch fit when I filed the hole. The Everlast has almost no support network and isn't as well polished but you can maybe buy 2-3 of them for the price of 1 of the others. The very lowest cost DIY extractor I have ever seen was a shop vac with no filter sitting outside with the hose through a sealed hole in a partially opened window. From what I've noticed, these small blowers seem to collect a majority of the fumes. Rescued scrap 1.5inch box Welding Helmets and Other Safety Equipment. Of course remove the added mesh and just leave the larger honeycomb openings. Ive got a similar extraction setup. Unless something's changed, Digikey or Hammond owe you two lids. Fan+ motor from an old corn cleaner. The ones I've seen, the openings have only been like 16x8 tops. I feel compelled to issue a health warning about evil fumes, though. Did you make this project? Seriously, that's a great idea, but Nice project. Or would that restrict airflow too much and reduce the effectiveness? The subreddit for welders, machinists and all other enthusiasts of joining two things together. I just do smaller projects, and will be mig welding not flux core for little fab projects. You must log in or register to reply here. I hung the reducer above the immediate weld area. Obviously, if you can still smell or see the fumes your filtration is either ineffective, or you're not capturing all of the fumes to begin with. A cheaper enclosure would make this much more of a deal when compared to commercially available models.
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