I do know of some municipalities, in California, that have restricted/eliminated the use of conventional water softeners, as the regeneration of them sends high solids content water into the sewer.
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It should speed up my project up quite nicely, and it doesn't take off plating and coatings like the old elbow grease and wire brush/chemical methods.
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I'll do some research and report back if I come up with anything useful for TFPers No salt build up should happen. Takes a while, and you have to be really close to the work, but it does work well, and still a ton faster than manual methods. Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Queen of Spades, May 1, 2014.
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He did that pool first and he said it took him about 2-1/2 hours mainly from all the patterned tiles.
That was a concern.
$400 would have been more reasonable, but I couldn't talk them out of the "gas tax." I went into the process of cleaning the engine bay with a steam machine, it was like pissing in the wind plus all the steam did to the greases were push them around.
What is their excuse for letting, my CYA, CH and scale get so far out of control without ever suggesting a water change? You are using an out of date browser.
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I am not sure how much of an issue that is.
The retailer here said Maxx Strip PT2 is the only approved media for pebble tec.
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The air dryer is the key to making the blast system work and I think my homemade cooler/ice idea would rid the system of water vapor.
I used almost 120 lbs (about $100) for a 14000 gallon pool on 6x6 tile and rocks only.
You must log in or register to reply here. Well, you can always run higher or lower pressures whatever the medium, but in general, higher pressure just means better, quicker results, IMO. I didn't like the idea of leaving the Maxx strip media in my pool either even though most do.
That's why I drained it completely, glad i did, that would have been 130 lbs of epsom salt added to the water. So following TFP recommended levels will definitely save your pool from scale issues. I'm eyeing the HF 40 pound portable soda blaster.
I finally did get it to work OK but the hassle might be way too much for many, be warned. The soda does not do a thing on removing calcium scale so dont waste your time, its too soft.
Soda blasting in a cabinet or enclosure want workout.
The other fellow's pool was as you describe - thick, thick, thick calcium deposits and he had not only standard tile but also patterned tile (lion heads) as well.
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And since everything else here that I've tried has been so far, I'm very optimistic! I do know that the sodium will build up in the water.
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The PF2 will etch plaster and grout but that was my technique and not an issue after my first tile.
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If you monitor your CSI and keep it at 0 or slightly negative, you will not get any scale below the water line.
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I will dump my water in the spring BUT it goes to show that if you follow the advice and science here, one can manage a pool in a very cost effective and trouble free . way.
It is being practiced by thousands of pool owners just like you.
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Not much money in it for a pool maintenance company when all they really need to do is test properly, use chlorine and MA and occasionally orchestrate a refill. With todays' water restrictions, sewer restrictions, etc that model is failing.
Its harder than calcium but softer than porcelain tile and basically Epsom salt with neutral PH.
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I am not an expert on water softener chemistry. Does anyone have any experience with Harbor Freight soda blasters? It is based on how hard your water is.
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Maxx Strip is the only way to go, I would never subject my pump to spurious glass beads, don't think you could ever get it all out.
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If you are getting salt its because youre filling while it is regenerating and the bypass is not working right.
The unit itself is probably fine, the blast nozzles OK for a while.
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The unit I used was a $129 Harbor Freight 40 lb soda blaster designed for Armex XL blasting media (baking soda).
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Size of the compressor tank doesn't directly relate to the capacity of the compressor pump, only to how long you can draw air before the pump starts again.
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I have a compressor but it is small.. fine for finish nailing and filling tires.
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There's no way to avoid evaporite deposits and my pool, 3 years post cleaning, only has fairly mild evaporite deposits.
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I just had mine done by the re-plasterers while the pool was empty. Privacy Statement - Test posts are permitted.
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First off, let me say water condensation in the air line is a VERY major issue with this unit and getting it to work at all.
Oh, about the additional salt added from soft water. Not to mention if you use too much "elbow grease" you can easily chip the patterns.
Well, as a reassurance, my CH is currently 1250ppm or almost 5X the lower limit recommended and Im able to keep my pool (under the water) completely scale free by managing the CSI closely.
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My [now X-] pool guy wanted $900.
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So that pool would be impossible to clean by any form of scraping because you simply can't get into all the nooks & crannies.
Well, the $300 bucks was probably on the cheap side because there was another pool owner in Tucson that needed the service and the guy was willing to come down and do both our pools on a Saturday.
If i set up a soda blasting system it would probably be used by my parents too, as both my Mum and Dad are pretty mechanically inclined and would deffinitely use it for stripping often if i had it.
Amazing how much calcium a water softener actually removes, and how much salt it adds over years.
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Your system can handle up to 5000 ppm NaCl.
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Interestingly, they never asked about the amount of buildup (which in my case was minimal), so I got the impression that was a flat rate.
Dry air is a must, and you'll want for a lot more air than most home oilless rotary-vane compressors will pump. No experience with that one, but I bought one of their benchtop blasting cabinets and use it with their soda (really Arm and Hammer's) and one of their compressors (4HP 10 Gallon 110V piston type).
This soda blaster will chew through 15+ CFM @ 90 PSI if the pressure is set up where you will think it should be for actually blasting stuff.
About Us - If you are planning only to soda blast smaller parts, this is even cheaper: I have seen that DIY soda blaster.
I refilled with too much soft water though so be careful there, I am now adding calcium chloride which kills me to get my CA to a balanced CSI number.
I was looking at their 40LB portable soda blaster unit and as with most HF stuff it's unfathomable to me how they can sell something for that cheap and still make money.
TFP told me that would be a non-issue.
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Since soda powder is less heavy than sand or bead material, would a smaller compressor be able to soda blast effectively?
The soda is much finer than what I used, Maxx strip PF2 (pool finish 2), which is fine grade specifically made for pool tile cleaning.
Me neither. They make a courser grade PT2 (pebble tec 2) which I didnt try and would not recommend.
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