JavaScript is disabled. Single discs are infinitely more drivable than double discs.
Pedal is nice and light, but must be pushed all the way to floor when shifting otherwise my T56 Magnum XL will voice its objections with slight grind. It's weird because in the V8 rwd world, a twin is the way to go. Wouldn't twin disc be a better choice for daily driving though?
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I'm trying to decide which clutch would be better for this application. Had mine for about 10k miles and its great. But thats cause im lazy haha. Most of the double disc systems are hard to drive. https://www.svtperformance.com/threads/replacement-clutch-for-stock-2013-boss.1086788/. I've put about 800 miles on mine in the last month. However, Phoenix Friction has been in the commercial clutch business for decades. Indeed, according to many companies that sell double disc clutch kits, vehicles that exceed some arbitrary horsepower rating must be equipped with a double-disc clutch. Cookie Policy -
JavaScript is disabled. The factory clutch that locates the casting with drive straps so there is no such rattle. It could be done, but I'd consider either the ACT or RPS Max first - frankly, any clutch will be a hassle in. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. There are lots of clutch players but to simplify the discussion I will limit the selection two the top two, Exedy and ACT. So im thinking about purchasing an mk4 r32 thats located in florida. As far as the clutch, you will get used to it and never want to go back to the sluggish OEM one. Wait, see point #1. Only downside is noise. I drive in traffic every day, but it's nothing like the big city, getting stuck on the 405 or whatever. Yes, I do like the ETP, and I do drive it on the street. I was worried it wouldn't hold the power with the new build. The noise at full disengagement decreases as dust builds up in the splines. He just kept stallin, It was funny as hell. That typically comes with high tq clutches, and discs coated in ceramic. 
installed the twin disc clutch in the BMW and it works great. im in michigan and im having a dealership down there do a full inspection on it before i even think about flying down there. S2000 Turbocharging and S2000 supercharging, for that extra kick. I have the CC twin disc C version. This is because: 1. my car is making 420whp and hopefully 525whp or more when i go back for race gas. And when it starts to get a little chattery just give it a couple of hard slip launches - that seems to clean off the plate build-up. Here's what you need to know about double disc clutches, and why Phoenix Friction doesn't sell these types of kits. I ran the RXT on my old Cobra and I never cared for how it engaged at the very top. The following errors occurred with your submission, EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community. Once a vehicle is modified in the field, it takes a reputable company with deep design and testing resources to develop a dependable and reliable clutch that will function correctly at different horsepower levels (and in different environments). Id rarely get in boost with today's gas prices. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. 
mantic But I always see like a handful of people of people having issues whether it be chatter, engagement point issue, or failure with them and most people not having one problem. clutch disc mustang organic twin gt mantic As there are a decent amount of options, I havent found many reviews on how they are for daily driving. competition stage 4 with stock CMC. It gets easier after break in ~600mi or so. Without calling out anyone in particular, it's no surprise that a lot of clutch retailers recommend double disc setupswhy sell someone one clutch when you can sell two? But you can't argue the price for what you get with the act. Traditionally, high power and a
I love this clutch, its paired with a Barton short throw and the setup is a beast. Besides the harmonic noise on deceleration and squeals during low speed shifts it's a great clutch. 4. Iam looking for reviews on which brand you have and the drivability aspect. That combined with the lack of pilot bearing puts a ton of load on the splines. 
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Im running the organic x clutch twin disk. The only drawback to the twin plate is the 'clanking' noise whenever the clutch pedal is depressed. I recently installed the Exedy Twin plate clutch/flywheel (300 miles). I'm one of the guys that had y'all get us custom disks for the liberty transmissions we will be running this yr. I will soon be putting over 400whp/400whtq on my STi. With the A version be a lot more streetable? corvette z06 Have it installed with RE trans mounts, OEM engine mounts with aluminum BMW Racing style mount inserts, and Hydra Performance turbos hooked up to catless 3" downpipes to 3.5" solid mid.
It could get a little chattery at times, but nothing to worry about. Anyone with a spec sheet can find the hardest material with the highest friction coefficient, throw it on a clutch, and cross their fingers. The one I have now is the XT pressure plate. Just be sure to choose one that's rated for your specific vehicle's power level. The reason why it is louder is because the floaters locate loosely on posts and the looseness causes a rattle when the clutch is disengaged. NYC traffic? Far from it.
When we talk about clutch design and wear and tear, it's important to understand that it's all about the friction material. The car has a clutch masters stage 7 twin disc clutch.
About Us - It is also a daily driver, and no..since it is a daily driver..its not like Im using all 450whp every shift lol. It hits hard and fast. Scribed, 04 SRT-4: 9:1 Compression, Built head, Crower s2's. I know some have encountered getting a CEL with lighter flywheels on some Subarus. Be ready to hate driving. Come join the discussion about performance, builds, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, new releases, and more!
Yes, you definitely can slip the ETP, but I kind of get the sense it doesn't like that.
New 2003 WRX. How is this clutch? Not sure Paul's experience is exactly apples to (big?) 2 things that should be the be all end all.
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It may not display this or other websites correctly. it's not a very good idea if you are only planning for 400 Hp. We know what we're doing. I would definitely chose them again. Instead, we suggest you invest in a good quality single disc clutch. As others have said the pedal feel is extremely light and you won't have any issues shifting at high rpm. The act twin disk is an awesome racing clutch but if your car is going to see the public highway stay with the 6 puck. i would imagine the way it sounds like you like to street drive, that excessive slipping for "smoother" engagement most likely would prematurely wear the discs before the tq would. Double clutches aren't bad, per se, they're just not good for most vehicles and applications. JavaScript is disabled. ^^ What's your reasoning behind this? Sitemap, Please use CHAT for product questions, messages, or assistance, Just be sure to choose one that's rated for your specific vehicle's power level. It is adjusted buy using three diffrent jets that are included with the flow control valve. How long will this clutch last? I agree with you in the aspect of this not being a market for more expensive items that fit the bill. The A version is rated to 650 hp. About Us - EBC Brakes Racing Two-Piece Rotors For G8X. They handle extreme applications. 2. I am running the Southbend Stage 4 OFE dxd Clutch and Flywheel kit. My McLeod locked me out of first at every stop and Id have to go from 3rd to 4th repeatedly until it went into one of those, then I could get in first. drive Advertising - 400-450whp daily driven long lasting clutch? I've got 15k miles on my SOS twin, still going strong. And most people want their disc to wear out before the input shaft.
PM sciolistI believe that he has a twin plate clutch that he daily drives. All Rights Reserved. I personally plan to beat the **** out of my car, which is as you can tell with my stock going at a mere 5,000 miles, but 65+ launches.. i daily drove my fx-850, and also 1/4mile dragged it for 5000 miles so far. That's what will immediately melt if we get a pineapple. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, 8thcivic.com is an independent Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. I bought the car used with 44k miles so I am not quite sure how a factory pedal should engage.but mine is right off the floor.so I am guessing it's time for one. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. 72t chipper I should have mentioned that the car is mostly intended for daily driving with some spirited occasions as well as a couple track visits a year, nothing too serious though.
I am currently driving everyday with a Carbonetic Twin Disc. They sound like they're really tough. Archive - clutch is smooth and surprisingly can easily be slipped like a McLeod Street Twin Dual-Disk Clutch as a daily driver question. It allows the twin to have a progressive engagement. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Expecting frequent maintenance to prolong your product. I've searched and I'm not seeing anything for the SRT-4. Installed the Mantic dual clutch last week. The commonly held belief is that double disc clutches are necessary once power levels exceed "X" amount of torque or horsepower. UR rotated T3/T04s, Catless DP & FMIC|Helix injectors|Walboro 255|Tial 38mm EW & alpha Q BPV|HKS Carbon Ti CBE|Cusco engine & trans mounts|Helix DNA coilovers|Kartboy SS bushings|Whiteline sways (F 27/R 24) & ALK|STI Full Pillowball Lateral links & trailing arms|Skidplate|Goodridge SS brake lines & hawk HP+ pads|Dewinged & baged for that Sleeper look!|Protuned By Harman 390whp/375FtLB, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I personally have had the first organic twin plate from xclutch and its been the best. Cookie Policy - Besides, the added weight would slow shifting. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, vwvortex.com is an independent Volkswagen enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Im in need of a new clutch to handle the torque. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. There also tends to be more gear noise and sometimes even a screeching sound on twin discs as the clutch is engaged (depending on the brand). here is another thought, why is it that evo owners all street drive there twin discs and we cant? I'm thinking about buying a competion twin disc. It showed up, put it in, trailered it to the track, did a ton of roll racing, then turned around the next day and drove it from Illinois to florida, around there and back home. If you have a very high horsepower/torque truck (800+ hp), double disc is your only option as single disc clutches will burn out over 700hp. Initially, i had to take off from first at 2000rpms. It's fine most of the time, but if I get into stop and go traffic for a long period, it's just tiring. Steve at SNL/Monster daily drove his car for a long ass time testing their twin disc, it never had any issues, I drove the car several times and you couldn't really tell that the car had the twin in it. So a "double" disc is better than a "single" disc, especially if the person you're describing your clutch to doesn't know much about the system. I've driven in New York City and I've driven in Bend, Oregon. If you think a single-disk, 6-puck, conventional clutch isn't tolerable as a daily solutionthe ONLY option is to pony up for a carbon-carbon twin. Anyone using the Clutch Specialties Street Disk. Anyone have any experience driving a car with a twin disc clutch? If not, what flywheel is best used with this clutch? For this reason we only recommend our twin discs for racing use, where the car is expected to see low mileage and frequent maintenance. I am wondering if anyone on here dailys a twin disc in their .:R. Def go for it if you haven't already ! JavaScript is disabled. This is becoming very Interesting. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was smooth as silk and shifted perfectly at WOT at Max RPM. Pedal feel is slightly heavier then stock. Reasonable street driving high pedal effort, jerky engagement, weird noises, Copyright 1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc. So when you say flex up front behind the DP connection? Well whatever it is, you're probably going to hate the commute home from work when you get stuck in traffic with a beefy clutch. My opinion is that you want to not dog the ETP. what clutch are you running right now? material that. rockford I would drive my car alot more if I didnt have that clutch in there. What are the best mods for daily driver and fun for the buck. Also, remember that you can throw the whole parts bin at the car, you can even pick and choose, but the best modification is to tighten the loose nut behind the wheel. Once again we feel that there are too many tradeoffs for a race clutch made that way, and a very limited market for those who would want a over-priced street friendly twin disc clutch that in many ways won't perform as well as our current offerings. yea it will..ive got over 25k on my build and i DD my car with the stock clutchno probs so fartraffic and everything.i dont launch it very often. weight which makes rpm Advertising - The wife hates the jerkyness of the engagement but hey it's a 'race car' now right LOL. Phoenix Friction has been selling single clutch discs to fleets and large commercial operators for decades, most of which operate light duty diesel trucks (like the Ram HD series, Ford Super Duty, etc) and medium duty trucks (like the larger 4500 and 5500 Ram or F450 thru F750). Advertising - If you need a TD its got to be purpose built, unless you can afford the rebuilds and down time, which makes me think opposite of a DD. I think you should try Cusco Hyper Single Clutch. They hold the power and are easy to drive.
I'll have to keep my eye on it - I have stuff over there I need to move quickly if it looks like it will happen.
Pedal is nice and light, but must be pushed all the way to floor when shifting otherwise my T56 Magnum XL will voice its objections with slight grind. It's weird because in the V8 rwd world, a twin is the way to go. Wouldn't twin disc be a better choice for daily driving though?
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I'm trying to decide which clutch would be better for this application. Had mine for about 10k miles and its great. But thats cause im lazy haha. Most of the double disc systems are hard to drive. https://www.svtperformance.com/threads/replacement-clutch-for-stock-2013-boss.1086788/. I've put about 800 miles on mine in the last month. However, Phoenix Friction has been in the commercial clutch business for decades. Indeed, according to many companies that sell double disc clutch kits, vehicles that exceed some arbitrary horsepower rating must be equipped with a double-disc clutch. Cookie Policy -
JavaScript is disabled. The factory clutch that locates the casting with drive straps so there is no such rattle. It could be done, but I'd consider either the ACT or RPS Max first - frankly, any clutch will be a hassle in. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. There are lots of clutch players but to simplify the discussion I will limit the selection two the top two, Exedy and ACT. So im thinking about purchasing an mk4 r32 thats located in florida. As far as the clutch, you will get used to it and never want to go back to the sluggish OEM one. Wait, see point #1. Only downside is noise. I drive in traffic every day, but it's nothing like the big city, getting stuck on the 405 or whatever. Yes, I do like the ETP, and I do drive it on the street. I was worried it wouldn't hold the power with the new build. The noise at full disengagement decreases as dust builds up in the splines. He just kept stallin, It was funny as hell. That typically comes with high tq clutches, and discs coated in ceramic. installed the twin disc clutch in the BMW and it works great. im in michigan and im having a dealership down there do a full inspection on it before i even think about flying down there. S2000 Turbocharging and S2000 supercharging, for that extra kick. I have the CC twin disc C version. This is because: 1. my car is making 420whp and hopefully 525whp or more when i go back for race gas. And when it starts to get a little chattery just give it a couple of hard slip launches - that seems to clean off the plate build-up. Here's what you need to know about double disc clutches, and why Phoenix Friction doesn't sell these types of kits. I ran the RXT on my old Cobra and I never cared for how it engaged at the very top. The following errors occurred with your submission, EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community. Once a vehicle is modified in the field, it takes a reputable company with deep design and testing resources to develop a dependable and reliable clutch that will function correctly at different horsepower levels (and in different environments). Id rarely get in boost with today's gas prices. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. mantic But I always see like a handful of people of people having issues whether it be chatter, engagement point issue, or failure with them and most people not having one problem. clutch disc mustang organic twin gt mantic As there are a decent amount of options, I havent found many reviews on how they are for daily driving. competition stage 4 with stock CMC. It gets easier after break in ~600mi or so. Without calling out anyone in particular, it's no surprise that a lot of clutch retailers recommend double disc setupswhy sell someone one clutch when you can sell two? But you can't argue the price for what you get with the act. Traditionally, high power and a
I love this clutch, its paired with a Barton short throw and the setup is a beast. Besides the harmonic noise on deceleration and squeals during low speed shifts it's a great clutch. 4. Iam looking for reviews on which brand you have and the drivability aspect. That combined with the lack of pilot bearing puts a ton of load on the splines. 
I guess i`ll try it out and see how it is. About Us -
Im running the organic x clutch twin disk. The only drawback to the twin plate is the 'clanking' noise whenever the clutch pedal is depressed. I recently installed the Exedy Twin plate clutch/flywheel (300 miles). I'm one of the guys that had y'all get us custom disks for the liberty transmissions we will be running this yr. I will soon be putting over 400whp/400whtq on my STi. With the A version be a lot more streetable? corvette z06 Have it installed with RE trans mounts, OEM engine mounts with aluminum BMW Racing style mount inserts, and Hydra Performance turbos hooked up to catless 3" downpipes to 3.5" solid mid. 
It could get a little chattery at times, but nothing to worry about. Anyone with a spec sheet can find the hardest material with the highest friction coefficient, throw it on a clutch, and cross their fingers. The one I have now is the XT pressure plate. Just be sure to choose one that's rated for your specific vehicle's power level. The reason why it is louder is because the floaters locate loosely on posts and the looseness causes a rattle when the clutch is disengaged. NYC traffic? Far from it.
When we talk about clutch design and wear and tear, it's important to understand that it's all about the friction material. The car has a clutch masters stage 7 twin disc clutch.
About Us - It is also a daily driver, and no..since it is a daily driver..its not like Im using all 450whp every shift lol. It hits hard and fast. Scribed, 04 SRT-4: 9:1 Compression, Built head, Crower s2's. I know some have encountered getting a CEL with lighter flywheels on some Subarus. Be ready to hate driving. Come join the discussion about performance, builds, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, new releases, and more!
Yes, you definitely can slip the ETP, but I kind of get the sense it doesn't like that.
New 2003 WRX. How is this clutch? Not sure Paul's experience is exactly apples to (big?) 2 things that should be the be all end all.
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It may not display this or other websites correctly. it's not a very good idea if you are only planning for 400 Hp. We know what we're doing. I would definitely chose them again. Instead, we suggest you invest in a good quality single disc clutch. As others have said the pedal feel is extremely light and you won't have any issues shifting at high rpm. The act twin disk is an awesome racing clutch but if your car is going to see the public highway stay with the 6 puck. i would imagine the way it sounds like you like to street drive, that excessive slipping for "smoother" engagement most likely would prematurely wear the discs before the tq would. Double clutches aren't bad, per se, they're just not good for most vehicles and applications. JavaScript is disabled. ^^ What's your reasoning behind this? Sitemap, Please use CHAT for product questions, messages, or assistance, Just be sure to choose one that's rated for your specific vehicle's power level. It is adjusted buy using three diffrent jets that are included with the flow control valve. How long will this clutch last? I agree with you in the aspect of this not being a market for more expensive items that fit the bill. The A version is rated to 650 hp. About Us - EBC Brakes Racing Two-Piece Rotors For G8X. They handle extreme applications. 2. I am running the Southbend Stage 4 OFE dxd Clutch and Flywheel kit. My McLeod locked me out of first at every stop and Id have to go from 3rd to 4th repeatedly until it went into one of those, then I could get in first. drive Advertising - 400-450whp daily driven long lasting clutch? I've got 15k miles on my SOS twin, still going strong. And most people want their disc to wear out before the input shaft.
PM sciolistI believe that he has a twin plate clutch that he daily drives. All Rights Reserved. I personally plan to beat the **** out of my car, which is as you can tell with my stock going at a mere 5,000 miles, but 65+ launches.. i daily drove my fx-850, and also 1/4mile dragged it for 5000 miles so far. That's what will immediately melt if we get a pineapple. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, 8thcivic.com is an independent Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. I bought the car used with 44k miles so I am not quite sure how a factory pedal should engage.but mine is right off the floor.so I am guessing it's time for one. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. 72t chipper I should have mentioned that the car is mostly intended for daily driving with some spirited occasions as well as a couple track visits a year, nothing too serious though.
I am currently driving everyday with a Carbonetic Twin Disc. They sound like they're really tough. Archive - clutch is smooth and surprisingly can easily be slipped like a McLeod Street Twin Dual-Disk Clutch as a daily driver question. It allows the twin to have a progressive engagement. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Expecting frequent maintenance to prolong your product. I've searched and I'm not seeing anything for the SRT-4. Installed the Mantic dual clutch last week. The commonly held belief is that double disc clutches are necessary once power levels exceed "X" amount of torque or horsepower. UR rotated T3/T04s, Catless DP & FMIC|Helix injectors|Walboro 255|Tial 38mm EW & alpha Q BPV|HKS Carbon Ti CBE|Cusco engine & trans mounts|Helix DNA coilovers|Kartboy SS bushings|Whiteline sways (F 27/R 24) & ALK|STI Full Pillowball Lateral links & trailing arms|Skidplate|Goodridge SS brake lines & hawk HP+ pads|Dewinged & baged for that Sleeper look!|Protuned By Harman 390whp/375FtLB, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I personally have had the first organic twin plate from xclutch and its been the best. Cookie Policy - Besides, the added weight would slow shifting. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, vwvortex.com is an independent Volkswagen enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Im in need of a new clutch to handle the torque. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. There also tends to be more gear noise and sometimes even a screeching sound on twin discs as the clutch is engaged (depending on the brand). here is another thought, why is it that evo owners all street drive there twin discs and we cant? I'm thinking about buying a competion twin disc. It showed up, put it in, trailered it to the track, did a ton of roll racing, then turned around the next day and drove it from Illinois to florida, around there and back home. If you have a very high horsepower/torque truck (800+ hp), double disc is your only option as single disc clutches will burn out over 700hp. Initially, i had to take off from first at 2000rpms. It's fine most of the time, but if I get into stop and go traffic for a long period, it's just tiring. Steve at SNL/Monster daily drove his car for a long ass time testing their twin disc, it never had any issues, I drove the car several times and you couldn't really tell that the car had the twin in it. So a "double" disc is better than a "single" disc, especially if the person you're describing your clutch to doesn't know much about the system. I've driven in New York City and I've driven in Bend, Oregon. If you think a single-disk, 6-puck, conventional clutch isn't tolerable as a daily solutionthe ONLY option is to pony up for a carbon-carbon twin. Anyone using the Clutch Specialties Street Disk. Anyone have any experience driving a car with a twin disc clutch? If not, what flywheel is best used with this clutch? For this reason we only recommend our twin discs for racing use, where the car is expected to see low mileage and frequent maintenance. I am wondering if anyone on here dailys a twin disc in their .:R. Def go for it if you haven't already ! JavaScript is disabled. This is becoming very Interesting. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was smooth as silk and shifted perfectly at WOT at Max RPM. Pedal feel is slightly heavier then stock. Reasonable street driving high pedal effort, jerky engagement, weird noises, Copyright 1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc. So when you say flex up front behind the DP connection? Well whatever it is, you're probably going to hate the commute home from work when you get stuck in traffic with a beefy clutch. My opinion is that you want to not dog the ETP. what clutch are you running right now? material that. rockford I would drive my car alot more if I didnt have that clutch in there. What are the best mods for daily driver and fun for the buck. Also, remember that you can throw the whole parts bin at the car, you can even pick and choose, but the best modification is to tighten the loose nut behind the wheel. Once again we feel that there are too many tradeoffs for a race clutch made that way, and a very limited market for those who would want a over-priced street friendly twin disc clutch that in many ways won't perform as well as our current offerings. yea it will..ive got over 25k on my build and i DD my car with the stock clutchno probs so fartraffic and everything.i dont launch it very often. weight which makes rpm Advertising - The wife hates the jerkyness of the engagement but hey it's a 'race car' now right LOL. Phoenix Friction has been selling single clutch discs to fleets and large commercial operators for decades, most of which operate light duty diesel trucks (like the Ram HD series, Ford Super Duty, etc) and medium duty trucks (like the larger 4500 and 5500 Ram or F450 thru F750). Advertising - If you need a TD its got to be purpose built, unless you can afford the rebuilds and down time, which makes me think opposite of a DD. I think you should try Cusco Hyper Single Clutch. They hold the power and are easy to drive.
I'll have to keep my eye on it - I have stuff over there I need to move quickly if it looks like it will happen.