Bringing this back up: Needing a water pump for my 1993 engine that is streaming coolant out of the weep hole.
It was $17 more than what Summit lists it for, but it's in stock. The coolant was leaking from the o-ring seal. Dayco DP1317 - $95.79 at Rockauto. Bad Seals Contact Us -
The pump itself appears to be fine. Requires I purchase pulley 8898 for an additional $133.95. Bolted on back cover. I'm going to go ahead with the installation of this one, but will go with a MC unit if this one fails. The difference could also be shaft dia. So now I'm back at the drawing board. I think mine has given up the ghost. Guessing maybe it has better bearings too. Contact Us -
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Good for warranty exchange. The HD pump probably uses better quality internal parts and may have increase flow that I've read. 4th Gen High Performance and Accessories 2010 and Up, 4th Gen Engine and Drivetrain-2010 and Up, 3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only), 3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (6.7L Only), 3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007, 3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2007 and up, 3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years, Natl. It's $50 brand new and aluminum. Privacy Statement -
Even though it *should* still be under warranty, I'm considering cutting my losses, and just doing the replacement myself. Tuff Stuff 1310C - $268.99 at Summit. As that is made for sealing paper gaskets, etc. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. The drive belt for the water pump can be either the timing belt/chain for the vehicle or a serpentine/accessory belt. Water pumps are generally reliable, at least compared to the good old days. On a modern engine, its not at all uncommon for a water pump to last longer than the vehicle. Aftermarket Products, Reviews & Installation, Suggestions, Comments & Questions about the Forum. I doubt it flows more water if the pulley diameter remains the same. Edelbrock 8896 - $434.95 at Summit. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our.
During coolant flushes, completely draining and using the correct fluid as replacement are paramount.
Unfortunately I cannot find anyone that has one in stock. Adding to the mess is the fact that the service manager I worked with is now gone. Meziere is a good choice unless you are road racing. Bolted on back cover. Pressed on back cover. Pretty sure I spent 200 on mine. I just put a Motorcraft pump in my Escape, and here's a pic. you can see FoMoCo in this casting. .750 vs .625. ac delco off ebay, My last ebay one lasted years and Id do it again. "1LE" GTO in progress Two gallons of coolant and two gallons of distilled water. The ones that are available locally are $155 and are easier for warranty exchange. Actually I had thought about doing that. It is listed on backorder till 3/4/2022. Not having much luck on finding a second hand pump, given that most of these are going to be at least 15 years old, I'm not sure I want to go that route. Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. I would suggest going with an AC-Delco Professional Grade pump. Terms of Service - I figure if it lasts 2-3 years, I'll swap it out with the rest of the components on that coolant service. They don't make those anymore. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 1. I've had a Murray in mine for several years now, zero issues. No more GTO. The chances are that either one of those AZ pumps are made in China and I would question the overall quality. 2005 PBM M6- Kooks headers, FAST102, BC coilovers, CTS-V brakes. Pretty sure you can get if off of Amazon but the price may have gone up due to the virus going around. Pressed on back cover. Archive - Advertising - Dry Rotation of the Pump From my research - they're all listed as counter-clockwise rotation, and have the same bolt pattern/spacing, and same diameter pulley. Location: Lacey WA RVN 68-69. According to reviews this does not last long. There are no better hoses than authentic GM hoses. Airtex AW5081 - $88.79 at Rockauto. This appears to have the bolted on back cover. Actually it's maybe a good value to purchase/investigate at least a premium product for a C4 water pump. Available today.
I'm using the pressed on cover AC Delco without issues. What style was stock, and I'm guessing it's better to go with the Heavy Duty version? Abrasive particles and engine oils are the most common contaminants that wreak havoc in a water pump. Manage Preferences - Anything prior to 1994 should go in here. The crazy thing is that these re-boxed parts sold at auto parts stores are all "keystone" meaning marked up - DOUBLE the wholesale price seemingly! 4. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Now, I was *told* that's what these have been, but have no verifiable proof. Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon.) and 02 Grand. Advertising - Available today locally. Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. comments, and I'm leaning that direction. Archive - NTSB recommends "Black boxes" for all vehicles made in the USA!. I can unsubscribe anytime to withdraw my consent.
A word of caution from personal experience. Anybody have a coupon code for O'Reilly or Autozone they could share? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.ls1gto.com/threads/i-smell-it-where-to-look-for-small-coolant-leak.846120/#post-21718209. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. I'm sure both would workbut you don't need "high temp"; that is for exhaust parts. Also they want new cheap pump money for them, $75+ and shipping charges on top of that. This charge of the circuit can reduce the chance of a mechanical seal loss. and Regional Chapters / Special Events, Dodge Cummins Water Pump Comparison- Tech Info - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum. Available today. Which doesn't count AC/Delco hoses as those are just aftermarket. Gasket, it's usually the install. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Stewart did right by me and changed the pump design after I killed two of their HD pumps, and gave me one with an improved cast impeller and bearings. Sometimes it's the difference in the impeller construction. About Us - Murray CP5081 - $154.99 at O'reilly. Other Vehicles. Good for warranty exchange. Also it seems I've read the HD pump flows more than the standard version. I put a new Motorcraft in the 98 in 2008.
Still, despite their reliability, its often a good idea to replace a water pump during the course of normal maintenance.
ACDelco 12681185 251-744 - $227.99 at Summit. Also to note, I can get the cheap ACDelco from Amazon for $90 shipped and I'll have it tomorrow. 2006 M6 GTO: John Doe's old ride. Available today. For this reason, when refilling the cooling circuit after replacement of the pump, many shop manuals recommend the pump be hand-rotated until its full. Contact Us - Contaminated coolant or coolant with improper chemistry can cause seal failures, corrosion, and more. Should have done that with the corvette and didn't so this time around I'll be going with Mezeire wp. Advertising - Stamped steel or a cast impeller. The following errors occurred with your submission, CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion, L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, In loving memory of lost CorvetteForum Brothers and Sisters, http://www.acdelco.com/auto-parts/water-pumps.html. I'm hoping this will be enough. I went with a Gates water pump on my 98 maybe a year and a half ago and have had no issues since then. Privacy Statement - For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you're just street driving, basic Chevy water pumps are as rock solid as the oiling systems came from the factory. 2. I think I'll go with the Permatex High Tack Spray-A-Gasket Sealant to spray on both sides of the water pump gaskets. Not spending over 150 for a dam water pump. Sponsored Content:OE CV Axle Trends for Todays More Demanding Drivetrains, Sponsored Content:FUEL TANK CLEANING CAN EXTEND THE LIFE A FUEL PUMP, Sponsored Content:The Importance of Changing Cabin Air Filters for the Winter, Sponsored Content:High Quality, Low Viscosity Oil Provides Benefits in All Climates, Research: Overheard: Producer Price Index, Ups and Downs, Collision: Driven Brands Acquires Tennessee-Based Jack Morris Auto Glass, Personnel: Pepper Wilson Joins AASA as Marketing Manager. O'Reilly's Murray pumps seem to have the most positive (fewest negative?) Also the stock one lasted 17 years, hopefully I'll get the same life out of this one as well. What should I get? During the course of water pump replacement, its possible for even the most experienced tech to make a mistake that will lead to premature pump failure.
Stamped metal impellers can fail at high RPM in high volume applications. Thanks, guys. Terms of Service - Contact Us - Terms of Service - So what is the difference between the two 5.9 pumps and the two 6.7 pumps? Cookie Policy - I bought one of the non-shrouded ones from Rock Auto, I can't remember which, but it actually interfaced with the metal inside when it was tightened down and wouldn't turn. Come discuss mods, horsepower, engine specs and more! My old stock water pump had visible vanes. Archive - Notice they have a standard New pump and a Heavy Duty NEW aluminum water pump. I decided I didn't trust the new "heavy duty" pump prior to putting it on the new motor, so I opened it up to coat both sides of the very flimsy looking gasket with sealant. Not wanting to pay 150 bucks for an indian made cummins pump with a low flow un-shrouded 5 blade impeller this time around! As others have noted, impeller construction is very important for pump design. Bolted on back cover. I'm taking all suggestions into consideration, though. It will cost more, but I would rather use AC Delco products. May just go with the HD pump. Available today. Available today. Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans. I've had luck with Gates as an aftermarket pump. My philosophy would be, if you can't get an OEM level AC Delco get the cheapest one with the best warranty.
My brief search has come up with the following options: I'll be going with an electric water pump. An improper seating, damaged seal, or misaligned gasket can mean the water pump is not operating efficiently or, worse, is under undue stress from misalignment. Here are four common mistakes that even a pro can make installing a water pump. Submit your company's info for the top suppliers list! When I opened up the pump, I noticed the vanes were not visible and instead a circular enclosure with vanes. Bolted on back cover. There's many choices, compare the AZ product to theirs? I've smoothed it out with 220/400/600 sandpaper, and will replace the o-ring. Privacy Statement - Since you failed to post where it's leaking, hard saying what's at fault. When coolant flows through the water pump without air bubbles or breaks, this mechanical seal remains intact. Duralast EWP-9189 - $154.99 at Autozone. That's not horrible if it turns out to be the correct casting. The mechanical seal within the water pump is created by the steady flow of fluid within the pump itself. The dealership provided me with a new O'Reilly (Murray) unit and a gallon of coolant this afternoon. Available today. Reproduction ORVIS XJ package exterior decals | Interest wanted, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1, The following errors occurred with your submission, Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. Improper installation will likely also cause immediate leakage from the mounting surface. Gates 45002 - $79.79 at Rockauto. Cookie Policy - 2022 Supplier Excellence Award, Mentoring Takes the Mystery Out of Advisory Councils, ADAS Market Projected to Reach $57.90 Billion by 2030, J.D. If excess sealant is applied to the gasket and it flows into the coolant system and the pumps shaft seal, it can cause seal failure in a matter of miles. 2022 Elrond-mobile Model Y Performance, 2010 Ram TRX. When a seal from a tube is recommended, properly applying and allowing for enough drying time are best practices. Parts quality across the board of ANY brand has been a complete wash for several years now . 3. Other Jeep models & cars and trucks of other makes, https://www.quadratec.com/products/71212_100.htm, Send a private message to Password12345678. Tendeco's John Lussier Sits Down with AMN Drivetime [VIDEO], Auto Pros Visit Str Automotive, Mooresville, NC, Driven Brands Acquires Tennessee-Based Jack Morris Auto Glass, Pepper Wilson Joins AASA as Marketing Manager, Chery Establishes New Connected Vehicle Research Institute, Alfa e-Parts Announces Pressure Sensor Release, Navistar Awards T/CCI Mfg. A misaligned belt that isnt fully engaging the water pumps pulley is another concern, as it can put undue pressure on the pulley and shaft. Looking at basic water pumps at Autozone for L98.
I don't think the HD water pump on this has anything to do with the size of the pulley since you reuse the factory pulley. Never had a problem, did the work myself tho. I probably only have 5K miles on it though. What would be the closest in terms of quality and longevity? ACDelco 19195105 252-846 - $127.99 at Summit. Bad Coolant The wrong coolant, which can happen, and bad coolant, which is more common, can cause issues for the water pump. If either is installed incorrectly or if other components driven by the belt seize or have rotational problems, this can affect water pump performance and eventually lead to failure. Don't the later cummins water pumps turn the opposite way? Available today. Advertising - It's sometimes debated which is more efficient but vane quantity and/or size is often an advertising point of the manufacturer. I have one of their thermostats in mine from a recent replacement. Available today. I agree to receive emails from the site. LS1GTO.com is a forum community dedicated to the LS1 Pontiac GTO. I've got GM upper and lower hoses on now that I'll reuse as I put them on a few years ago to replace the original factory GM hoses. If it is a Motorcraft pump, it will either have the Ford logo, or FoMoCo cast into the body. OH , and as an aside and info pertaining to Oliver's question - the newer style cummins pumps are made in USA, check out Geno's and their pics to confirm: I did not know about the flow difference in the shrouded and unshrouded versions.good to know! Power Reveals Data on Economy/Range Satisfaction Gap, Procurement Management 101: Making Better Decisions, Part 2, Transtars Neil Sethi: from Healthcare to Hard Parts [VIDEO], Video: APA's Steve Tucker on AMN Drivetime, Auto Care Association Announces New Board of Directors, AAA: Record Number to Hit the Roads in US this Weekend, Tendecos John Lussier Sits Down with AMN Drivetime [VIDEO], UL Solutions IntroducesEV Battery Screening Test, Lincoln Tech Enters Partnership with AkzoNobel Coatings, 4 Mistakes Even a Pro Can Make When Installing a Water Pump, Keep Drivers Comfortable with Airborne Contaminant Control, The Importance of Proper Spark Plug Torquing, New vs. Remanufactured Water Pumps Pros and Cons, When It Comes To Water Pumps, EVs Are Business As Usual, Making The Case For Preventative Water Pump Replacement. A water pump replacement isn't a bad job, so maybe the cost of the bet isn't too high for a roll of the dice. A lot of their stuff is junk but not everything. Re-using old seals or making due with the wrong seal is another common problem.
I bought a $30 duralast one from Autozone over a year ago (Knock on wood) truck still drives like a beast. Many times, the installer will use the manufacturer recommended O-ring or seal, then supplement with a gasket set or sealing paste when its not called for. It turns out that the pump(s) installed were *not* Motorcraft, but aftermarket, brand unknown. This should be the identical OEM replacement. General discussion on the Ford 1997 - 2003 F150 truck. The part number is 42004. Bolted on back cover.
All ZJ,WJ & WK aftermarket tech goes here. I put a Duralast unit in mine. Probably will use Permatex High Temp or High Performance thread sealant for the bolt threads and heater hose pipe. Failing to do so can result in seal problems. Every time there is a warranty exchange I'm out $30 in coolant, water and gaskets. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here, Modified Grand Cherokee Tech. Never had a problem after. Real quality partMark, The following errors occurred with your submission, Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums, 1st and 2nd Generation Ram - Years 1989-2002. Weep hole, it's the pump. The thinking is that its cheaper and safer to replace a water pump than to let it fail, especially if removing and replacing a water pump can be done for only an incremental cost. I blew through several high volume "HD" pumps on my small block Ford including two Stewart pumps. So my water pump went out and I was looking around at Orilieys and found a Murray water pump. Privacy Statement - FlowKooler 1670 - $209.99 at Summit. FWIW I got 2 different bad out of the box Murray water pumps from oreillys last week. Improper Belt Components Is it better to use the Permatex High Performance or High Temp thread sealant on the water pump bolts? Bolted on back cover. The area it's supposed to seal against isn't perfectly smooth due to some voids in the block casting. JavaScript is disabled. GMB North America 130-7290 - $123.99 at Summit. Well, it's been a few days with no responses, so I guess there aren't many who are familiar with them. Cookie Policy - I just found the expensive ACDelco on eBay and bought it. If a water pump fails before it should, remember to check for these installation errors when trying to locate the origin of the problem. Pump start up might see a brief current spike. Manage Preferences - Water pumps are generally reliable and hearty components in a cars engine. Terms of Service - Seems fine. It is listed on backorder till 12/20/2021. It seems that for every person who recommends "X" brand, there's someone who's had problems with them. Read our Privacy Policy for more info. Faulty seals are the most common reason for failure. The introduction of pauses or lapses in the coolant (usually air) can temporarily break and overheat that mechanical seal, which can then cause other problems. Bolted on back cover. Also it seems I've read the HD pump flows more than the standard version. I think meziere says their pumps use 10-11 amps when running. Maybe. I've done a lot of searching since posting this. Most people seem to swear by the MC pump, and frankly, I'm surprised by the failures. I searched the forum and the consensus it to get the ACDelco expensive option that is basically an exact new factory replacement.
Good for warranty exchange. The HD pump probably uses better quality internal parts and may have increase flow that I've read. 4th Gen High Performance and Accessories 2010 and Up, 4th Gen Engine and Drivetrain-2010 and Up, 3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only), 3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (6.7L Only), 3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007, 3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2007 and up, 3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years, Natl. It's $50 brand new and aluminum. Privacy Statement -
Even though it *should* still be under warranty, I'm considering cutting my losses, and just doing the replacement myself. Tuff Stuff 1310C - $268.99 at Summit. As that is made for sealing paper gaskets, etc. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. The drive belt for the water pump can be either the timing belt/chain for the vehicle or a serpentine/accessory belt. Water pumps are generally reliable, at least compared to the good old days. On a modern engine, its not at all uncommon for a water pump to last longer than the vehicle. Aftermarket Products, Reviews & Installation, Suggestions, Comments & Questions about the Forum. I doubt it flows more water if the pulley diameter remains the same. Edelbrock 8896 - $434.95 at Summit. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our.
During coolant flushes, completely draining and using the correct fluid as replacement are paramount.
Unfortunately I cannot find anyone that has one in stock. Adding to the mess is the fact that the service manager I worked with is now gone. Meziere is a good choice unless you are road racing. Bolted on back cover. Pressed on back cover. Pretty sure I spent 200 on mine. I just put a Motorcraft pump in my Escape, and here's a pic. you can see FoMoCo in this casting. .750 vs .625. ac delco off ebay, My last ebay one lasted years and Id do it again. "1LE" GTO in progress Two gallons of coolant and two gallons of distilled water. The ones that are available locally are $155 and are easier for warranty exchange. Actually I had thought about doing that. It is listed on backorder till 3/4/2022. Not having much luck on finding a second hand pump, given that most of these are going to be at least 15 years old, I'm not sure I want to go that route. Discussion for all Dodge Rams prior to 1994. I would suggest going with an AC-Delco Professional Grade pump. Terms of Service - I figure if it lasts 2-3 years, I'll swap it out with the rest of the components on that coolant service. They don't make those anymore. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 1. I've had a Murray in mine for several years now, zero issues. No more GTO. The chances are that either one of those AZ pumps are made in China and I would question the overall quality. 2005 PBM M6- Kooks headers, FAST102, BC coilovers, CTS-V brakes. Pretty sure you can get if off of Amazon but the price may have gone up due to the virus going around. Pressed on back cover. Archive - Advertising - Dry Rotation of the Pump From my research - they're all listed as counter-clockwise rotation, and have the same bolt pattern/spacing, and same diameter pulley. Location: Lacey WA RVN 68-69. According to reviews this does not last long. There are no better hoses than authentic GM hoses. Airtex AW5081 - $88.79 at Rockauto. This appears to have the bolted on back cover. Actually it's maybe a good value to purchase/investigate at least a premium product for a C4 water pump. Available today.
I'm using the pressed on cover AC Delco without issues. What style was stock, and I'm guessing it's better to go with the Heavy Duty version? Abrasive particles and engine oils are the most common contaminants that wreak havoc in a water pump. Manage Preferences - Anything prior to 1994 should go in here. The crazy thing is that these re-boxed parts sold at auto parts stores are all "keystone" meaning marked up - DOUBLE the wholesale price seemingly! 4. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Now, I was *told* that's what these have been, but have no verifiable proof. Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon.) and 02 Grand. Advertising - Available today locally. Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. comments, and I'm leaning that direction. Archive - NTSB recommends "Black boxes" for all vehicles made in the USA!. I can unsubscribe anytime to withdraw my consent.
A word of caution from personal experience. Anybody have a coupon code for O'Reilly or Autozone they could share? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.ls1gto.com/threads/i-smell-it-where-to-look-for-small-coolant-leak.846120/#post-21718209. This includes engine, drivetrain and non-drivetrain discussions. I'm sure both would workbut you don't need "high temp"; that is for exhaust parts. Also they want new cheap pump money for them, $75+ and shipping charges on top of that. This charge of the circuit can reduce the chance of a mechanical seal loss. and Regional Chapters / Special Events, Dodge Cummins Water Pump Comparison- Tech Info - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum. Available today. Which doesn't count AC/Delco hoses as those are just aftermarket. Gasket, it's usually the install. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Stewart did right by me and changed the pump design after I killed two of their HD pumps, and gave me one with an improved cast impeller and bearings. Sometimes it's the difference in the impeller construction. About Us - Murray CP5081 - $154.99 at O'reilly. Other Vehicles. Good for warranty exchange. Also it seems I've read the HD pump flows more than the standard version. I put a new Motorcraft in the 98 in 2008.
Still, despite their reliability, its often a good idea to replace a water pump during the course of normal maintenance.
ACDelco 12681185 251-744 - $227.99 at Summit. Also to note, I can get the cheap ACDelco from Amazon for $90 shipped and I'll have it tomorrow. 2006 M6 GTO: John Doe's old ride. Available today. For this reason, when refilling the cooling circuit after replacement of the pump, many shop manuals recommend the pump be hand-rotated until its full. Contact Us - Contaminated coolant or coolant with improper chemistry can cause seal failures, corrosion, and more. Should have done that with the corvette and didn't so this time around I'll be going with Mezeire wp. Advertising - Stamped steel or a cast impeller. The following errors occurred with your submission, CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion, L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, In loving memory of lost CorvetteForum Brothers and Sisters, http://www.acdelco.com/auto-parts/water-pumps.html. I'm hoping this will be enough. I went with a Gates water pump on my 98 maybe a year and a half ago and have had no issues since then. Privacy Statement - For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you're just street driving, basic Chevy water pumps are as rock solid as the oiling systems came from the factory. 2. I think I'll go with the Permatex High Tack Spray-A-Gasket Sealant to spray on both sides of the water pump gaskets. Not spending over 150 for a dam water pump. Sponsored Content:OE CV Axle Trends for Todays More Demanding Drivetrains, Sponsored Content:FUEL TANK CLEANING CAN EXTEND THE LIFE A FUEL PUMP, Sponsored Content:The Importance of Changing Cabin Air Filters for the Winter, Sponsored Content:High Quality, Low Viscosity Oil Provides Benefits in All Climates, Research: Overheard: Producer Price Index, Ups and Downs, Collision: Driven Brands Acquires Tennessee-Based Jack Morris Auto Glass, Personnel: Pepper Wilson Joins AASA as Marketing Manager. O'Reilly's Murray pumps seem to have the most positive (fewest negative?) Also the stock one lasted 17 years, hopefully I'll get the same life out of this one as well. What should I get? During the course of water pump replacement, its possible for even the most experienced tech to make a mistake that will lead to premature pump failure.
Stamped metal impellers can fail at high RPM in high volume applications. Thanks, guys. Terms of Service - Contact Us - Terms of Service - So what is the difference between the two 5.9 pumps and the two 6.7 pumps? Cookie Policy - I bought one of the non-shrouded ones from Rock Auto, I can't remember which, but it actually interfaced with the metal inside when it was tightened down and wouldn't turn. Come discuss mods, horsepower, engine specs and more! My old stock water pump had visible vanes. Archive - Notice they have a standard New pump and a Heavy Duty NEW aluminum water pump. I decided I didn't trust the new "heavy duty" pump prior to putting it on the new motor, so I opened it up to coat both sides of the very flimsy looking gasket with sealant. Not wanting to pay 150 bucks for an indian made cummins pump with a low flow un-shrouded 5 blade impeller this time around! As others have noted, impeller construction is very important for pump design. Bolted on back cover. I'm taking all suggestions into consideration, though. It will cost more, but I would rather use AC Delco products. May just go with the HD pump. Available today. Available today. Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans. I've had luck with Gates as an aftermarket pump. My philosophy would be, if you can't get an OEM level AC Delco get the cheapest one with the best warranty.
My brief search has come up with the following options: I'll be going with an electric water pump. An improper seating, damaged seal, or misaligned gasket can mean the water pump is not operating efficiently or, worse, is under undue stress from misalignment. Here are four common mistakes that even a pro can make installing a water pump. Submit your company's info for the top suppliers list! When I opened up the pump, I noticed the vanes were not visible and instead a circular enclosure with vanes. Bolted on back cover. There's many choices, compare the AZ product to theirs? I've smoothed it out with 220/400/600 sandpaper, and will replace the o-ring. Privacy Statement - Since you failed to post where it's leaking, hard saying what's at fault. When coolant flows through the water pump without air bubbles or breaks, this mechanical seal remains intact. Duralast EWP-9189 - $154.99 at Autozone. That's not horrible if it turns out to be the correct casting. The mechanical seal within the water pump is created by the steady flow of fluid within the pump itself. The dealership provided me with a new O'Reilly (Murray) unit and a gallon of coolant this afternoon. Available today. Reproduction ORVIS XJ package exterior decals | Interest wanted, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1, The following errors occurred with your submission, Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. Improper installation will likely also cause immediate leakage from the mounting surface. Gates 45002 - $79.79 at Rockauto. Cookie Policy - 2022 Supplier Excellence Award, Mentoring Takes the Mystery Out of Advisory Councils, ADAS Market Projected to Reach $57.90 Billion by 2030, J.D. If excess sealant is applied to the gasket and it flows into the coolant system and the pumps shaft seal, it can cause seal failure in a matter of miles. 2022 Elrond-mobile Model Y Performance, 2010 Ram TRX. When a seal from a tube is recommended, properly applying and allowing for enough drying time are best practices. Parts quality across the board of ANY brand has been a complete wash for several years now . 3. Other Jeep models & cars and trucks of other makes, https://www.quadratec.com/products/71212_100.htm, Send a private message to Password12345678. Tendeco's John Lussier Sits Down with AMN Drivetime [VIDEO], Auto Pros Visit Str Automotive, Mooresville, NC, Driven Brands Acquires Tennessee-Based Jack Morris Auto Glass, Pepper Wilson Joins AASA as Marketing Manager, Chery Establishes New Connected Vehicle Research Institute, Alfa e-Parts Announces Pressure Sensor Release, Navistar Awards T/CCI Mfg. A misaligned belt that isnt fully engaging the water pumps pulley is another concern, as it can put undue pressure on the pulley and shaft. Looking at basic water pumps at Autozone for L98.
I don't think the HD water pump on this has anything to do with the size of the pulley since you reuse the factory pulley. Never had a problem, did the work myself tho. I probably only have 5K miles on it though. What would be the closest in terms of quality and longevity? ACDelco 19195105 252-846 - $127.99 at Summit. Bad Coolant The wrong coolant, which can happen, and bad coolant, which is more common, can cause issues for the water pump. If either is installed incorrectly or if other components driven by the belt seize or have rotational problems, this can affect water pump performance and eventually lead to failure. Don't the later cummins water pumps turn the opposite way? Available today. Advertising - It's sometimes debated which is more efficient but vane quantity and/or size is often an advertising point of the manufacturer. I have one of their thermostats in mine from a recent replacement. Available today. I agree to receive emails from the site. LS1GTO.com is a forum community dedicated to the LS1 Pontiac GTO. I've got GM upper and lower hoses on now that I'll reuse as I put them on a few years ago to replace the original factory GM hoses. If it is a Motorcraft pump, it will either have the Ford logo, or FoMoCo cast into the body. OH , and as an aside and info pertaining to Oliver's question - the newer style cummins pumps are made in USA, check out Geno's and their pics to confirm: I did not know about the flow difference in the shrouded and unshrouded versions.good to know! Power Reveals Data on Economy/Range Satisfaction Gap, Procurement Management 101: Making Better Decisions, Part 2, Transtars Neil Sethi: from Healthcare to Hard Parts [VIDEO], Video: APA's Steve Tucker on AMN Drivetime, Auto Care Association Announces New Board of Directors, AAA: Record Number to Hit the Roads in US this Weekend, Tendecos John Lussier Sits Down with AMN Drivetime [VIDEO], UL Solutions IntroducesEV Battery Screening Test, Lincoln Tech Enters Partnership with AkzoNobel Coatings, 4 Mistakes Even a Pro Can Make When Installing a Water Pump, Keep Drivers Comfortable with Airborne Contaminant Control, The Importance of Proper Spark Plug Torquing, New vs. Remanufactured Water Pumps Pros and Cons, When It Comes To Water Pumps, EVs Are Business As Usual, Making The Case For Preventative Water Pump Replacement. A water pump replacement isn't a bad job, so maybe the cost of the bet isn't too high for a roll of the dice. A lot of their stuff is junk but not everything. Re-using old seals or making due with the wrong seal is another common problem.
I bought a $30 duralast one from Autozone over a year ago (Knock on wood) truck still drives like a beast. Many times, the installer will use the manufacturer recommended O-ring or seal, then supplement with a gasket set or sealing paste when its not called for. It turns out that the pump(s) installed were *not* Motorcraft, but aftermarket, brand unknown. This should be the identical OEM replacement. General discussion on the Ford 1997 - 2003 F150 truck. The part number is 42004. Bolted on back cover.
All ZJ,WJ & WK aftermarket tech goes here. I put a Duralast unit in mine. Probably will use Permatex High Temp or High Performance thread sealant for the bolt threads and heater hose pipe. Failing to do so can result in seal problems. Every time there is a warranty exchange I'm out $30 in coolant, water and gaskets. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here, Modified Grand Cherokee Tech. Never had a problem after. Real quality partMark, The following errors occurred with your submission, Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums, 1st and 2nd Generation Ram - Years 1989-2002. Weep hole, it's the pump. The thinking is that its cheaper and safer to replace a water pump than to let it fail, especially if removing and replacing a water pump can be done for only an incremental cost. I blew through several high volume "HD" pumps on my small block Ford including two Stewart pumps. So my water pump went out and I was looking around at Orilieys and found a Murray water pump. Privacy Statement - FlowKooler 1670 - $209.99 at Summit. FWIW I got 2 different bad out of the box Murray water pumps from oreillys last week. Improper Belt Components Is it better to use the Permatex High Performance or High Temp thread sealant on the water pump bolts? Bolted on back cover. The area it's supposed to seal against isn't perfectly smooth due to some voids in the block casting. JavaScript is disabled. GMB North America 130-7290 - $123.99 at Summit. Well, it's been a few days with no responses, so I guess there aren't many who are familiar with them. Cookie Policy - I just found the expensive ACDelco on eBay and bought it. If a water pump fails before it should, remember to check for these installation errors when trying to locate the origin of the problem. Pump start up might see a brief current spike. Manage Preferences - Water pumps are generally reliable and hearty components in a cars engine. Terms of Service - Seems fine. It is listed on backorder till 12/20/2021. It seems that for every person who recommends "X" brand, there's someone who's had problems with them. Read our Privacy Policy for more info. Faulty seals are the most common reason for failure. The introduction of pauses or lapses in the coolant (usually air) can temporarily break and overheat that mechanical seal, which can then cause other problems. Bolted on back cover. Also it seems I've read the HD pump flows more than the standard version. I think meziere says their pumps use 10-11 amps when running. Maybe. I've done a lot of searching since posting this. Most people seem to swear by the MC pump, and frankly, I'm surprised by the failures. I searched the forum and the consensus it to get the ACDelco expensive option that is basically an exact new factory replacement.