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1933 Ford Tudor StreetRod
2017 Ford Raptor / 2015 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. Bag the braided hose as much as you can. Most web browsers automatically accept cookies, but you can usually modify your browser setting to decline cookies if you prefer. Whats scary is the leak was positioned just above the passenger-side exhaust header. After that incident I replaced it all with stainless hardline, and used compression fittings to adapt to short lengths of braided at the beginning and end of the hard line. This will make replacement the easiest and most trouble-free connection. You only get one guess as to how quickly this would have burned his car to the ground. 11. We may contact you by email, phone, fax or mail. Reproduction is prohibited other than in accordance with the copyright notice, which forms part of these terms and conditions. MKIII 351W, mid-shift T5, 3.73 IRS, Wilwood Dual M/C, PBR/Tbird brakes, Vintage 15" Wheels, FFR Koni's, SAI Mod delivered 09/2005, first drive 04/2009 Still not done!! Pros: Perfect for turbo oil drains and any other high heat areas. 400 Series - This is a rubber hose commonly used with push lock fittings.
Aluminum work hardens with vibration and can/will split and crack.
Its a common ailment that gets very little attention. You may choose to restrict the collection or use of your personal information in the following ways: We will not sell, distribute or lease your personal information to third parties unless we have your permission or are required by law to do so. Upgrading the stock fuel hose or hardline with braided fuel line helps it to last longer, add more protection from leaks, and improve the looks for show vehicles. We only use this information for statistical analysis purposes and then the data is removed from the system. Hardline does not expand. We may use the information to customise the website according to your interests. It needs to be well supported to prevent fractures, especially around fittings. Theres no way to visually check the condition of a braided steel, rubber-lined hose. Was a synch to take it apart and add them and bolt it back together again. From just a survey perspective, most of my dual line customers run stainless hardlines, most of my single line customers run braided. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses and fuel lines (not E85 compatible) Notes: Running this hose very close to exhaust manifolds and turbos is not recommended, however it will hold up better than 100 series. Good luck.
Come join the discussion about popular models such as the Mustang, Galaxie, Falcon, Fairlane, Torino, Shelby and many more! This may prevent you from taking full advantage of the website. Will not melt or burn. This material is impervious to the degenerative effects of fuel that also creates a vapor barrier so fuel vapors cannot leak past. Ideally, to fix a fuel line leak, you should replace the line or seals if it has them. I don't think that the rest of the hardlines are in that great of a shape anyway. Aluminium Hardline - As the name suggests, this is an aluminum tube or hardline roll. Any good resources? It is not recommended to use sealants or products that patch up a leak as these will not work for very long and could get into the fuel system and clog it or break, causing a potential fire hazard while driving. A forum community dedicated to Factory Five owners and enthusiasts. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses and fuel lines (not E85 compatible) Traditional braided line is still rubber hose at the core. If the line is rubber it will need to be replaced. Therefore, we cannot be responsible for the protection and privacy of any information which you provide whilst visiting such sites and such sites are not governed by this privacy statement. On my AE86 project, I cut off the offending section of hard line as close as was practical, hit up GRM and found a friendly local with a flare tool who came over and flared the end of the hard line, adapted to AN, and ran a short section of braided flex lineso far, so good! Earls recommends wrapping the hose in Teflon tape and using a sharp razor cutter to perform 90 percent of the cut, finishing with a pair of sharp scissors. Subscribe to our newsletter and we'll keep you up to date on our products and services. First I have to say Wow!
You are now signed up to receive JEGS Deals with text alerts! 1/8 pipe to -4 male. We may change this policy from time to time by updating this page. Do this by hand or you might damage the threads. We arecommitted to ensuring that your privacy is protected. Press J to jump to the feed. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses, fuel lines, E85 and pretty much anything. Rubber to the hard line after the pump and when you you are snaking through the K. Run that hard line to the rad support and terminate it before the regulator. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses,fuel lines, E85 and pretty much anything. The only fittings I have is where I'm connecting to tank, filter, pump and carb, i.e. Thank you! It's easier in my opinion and later if you need to run them a little differant it is easier. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The first O-ring (4) allows the fitting to swivel once tightened while the second (5) is a special fluoroelastomer seal that is impervious to all fuels. If you notice any leaks, you need to fix them before starting and driving the vehicle due to the fire hazard that could result from use. 7. Earls -6 UltraPro convo PTFE hose, 20 ft. Earls -4 AN 90-deg. POM Dec/2010 & Feb/2011. Carry on.
Holley has also come up with a less expensive rubber hose called Vapor Guard, intended for either carbureted or EFI applications. Starting with the fittings, Earls uses 2024-T8 aluminum and black anodizes the finish (1, 2, 3). The black nylon overbraid will melt! 12. If you disagree with any part of these terms and conditions, please do not use our website. You should exercise caution and look at the privacy statement applicable to the website in question. Braided line is available in stainless steel or nylon. freq may vary. Thats never a good question to ask. Cons: Not recommended for turbo oil drains or E85 fuel. IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!! If there is a break in the line that isnt on the end, and it is low pressure, you can use a compression fitting . A quick check is what we call the crinkle test. If you grab a hose and flex it and you can hear a crinkly sound, the hose is dried up and junk. Heres what he did with polished stainless hard line on an LS3 hes building. Msg & data rates may apply. Re: fuel hard line vs braided suggestions. But on hot rods that are driven infrequently, the fuel line experiences multiple cycles of wetting and drying. The rest is done in Startlite from Aeroquip with AN fittings throughout. Nobody likes fire. One problem with PTFE style hoses is that it is susceptible to kinking due to the plastics inelastic nature. Each hose has different advanatges and disadvantages depending on the required application. i ended up using summit alum 1/2 inch from the regulator in front of front shock tower, Vintage/Classic/Historical Engine Tech, 3V Performance Engine & Valve train Development, Race Cars & Parts - For Sale or Wanted. So I'm going to have to fix what I have one way or the other. We use ethanol compatible lines. Pump gasoline has undergone a major evolution in the last 20 years and its reformulation includes a government-mandated addition of 10 percent ethanol that everyone blames for the degradation of fuel lines. The Startlite is very easy to work with and I like what I think is a more vintage look versus the hotrod look of the ss braided. This only works with low pressure applications. Please take a moment and Register today. Finally, along the lines of hoses and fittings, Holley has also introduced a simple steam fitting kit for LS engines that is downright cool. There may be a return line from the regulator to the tank depending upon the pump I buy. I am not running fuel injection. Be sure to retain the white tape over the hose so it doesnt unravel. Buying a quality fuel hose and hardline can be overwhelming and confusing. Our ABN is 60 163 443 007. 8. From time to time, this website may also include links to other websites. AWS certified welder. 100 Series - This is a rubber hose with braided stainless steel over the top. Overall, cookies help us provide you with a better website by enabling us to monitor which pages you find useful and which you do not. You acknowledge that such information and materials may contain inaccuracies or errors and we expressly exclude liability for any such inaccuracies or errors to the fullest extent permitted by law. Purchasing performance hose & steel hardline for your car, truck, or suv provides a lot of benefits. A cookie is a small file which asks permission to be placed on your computer's hard drive. The ferrule (6) creates the seal between the PTFE hose liner (7) and the outer covering (8). Either stainless (harder to bend & flare) or the NiCop (nickle copper alloy). A small amount of air may initially escape from between the fitting and the hose. Cons: Not recommended for turbo oil drains or E85 fuel. 10. The term you refers to the user or viewer of our website. I am going to be running braided with AN fittings. Next, twist the olive in between outer braid and the hose. I used 3/8 inch copper nickel tubing for my fuel lines. If you have a leaking fuel line connector, the first and preferred option is to replace either the connector or the line that contains it.
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Everything inside the tank is in great shape. There are many different factors to consider when shopping for hose and hard line products including different brands, prices, warranties, performance capabilities, and much more. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses and fuel lines (not E85 compatible) Summit Racing Aluminum Fuel Lines SUM-G2512, Russell 634180: Twist-Lok Hose -08 AN | JEGS, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). Where the line can be well supported - I'd use aluminum hardline (aircraft use this almost exclusively). 1967 Falcon 4 door 351C - 70 Mustang 351C, .The Aluminum is OK, I don't have any real complaint - but I got to thinking that the difference in price between aluminum and steel isn't really that much, so .. why not step up - besides, I'm a little more confident when it comes to, I was aware the angle was different, but either didn't realize or forgot. FFR 5197 Mark II Roadster 427w Complete 6/28/2006, Braided SSTL with AN fittings would look better and be more robust than aluminum hardline.
JavaScript is disabled. Might make routing harder. Running e85 or methanol might warrant SS. Cons: Not recommended for turbo oil drains or E85 fuel. Hey guys, I've been looking all over for some threads or topics on replacing the 280z hardlines with braided PTFE lines. Archive - line up to the front to a pressure regulator. They are also very easy and in my opinion, quite fun to assemble. JavaScript is disabled. Stainless is your better bet. As you might expect, the hose and fittings are more expensive than rubber-lined braided hose. All rights reserved.
Braided line and all those fittings cost more and add weight over the hard line/rubber hose. Earls straight -6 AN hose end, 3/8 barb. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising.
These include a safe and secure connection to provide years of leak-free service for your vehicle. 2022 JEGS High Performance. The first option is to try spiraling the hose to give you the entry and exit angles you need, if the space will allow it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are now signed up to receive great E-Mail Offers! Note the sealing O-rings. Reply HELP for help or STOP to opt out. Graduation thread with my progress links is, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz220/gtfireftr/MK4/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. We may use your personal information to send you promotional information about third parties which we think you may find interesting if you tell us that you wish this to happen.
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1933 Ford Tudor StreetRod
2017 Ford Raptor / 2015 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. Bag the braided hose as much as you can. Most web browsers automatically accept cookies, but you can usually modify your browser setting to decline cookies if you prefer. Whats scary is the leak was positioned just above the passenger-side exhaust header. After that incident I replaced it all with stainless hardline, and used compression fittings to adapt to short lengths of braided at the beginning and end of the hard line. This will make replacement the easiest and most trouble-free connection. You only get one guess as to how quickly this would have burned his car to the ground. 11. We may contact you by email, phone, fax or mail. Reproduction is prohibited other than in accordance with the copyright notice, which forms part of these terms and conditions. MKIII 351W, mid-shift T5, 3.73 IRS, Wilwood Dual M/C, PBR/Tbird brakes, Vintage 15" Wheels, FFR Koni's, SAI Mod delivered 09/2005, first drive 04/2009 Still not done!! Pros: Perfect for turbo oil drains and any other high heat areas. 400 Series - This is a rubber hose commonly used with push lock fittings.
Aluminum work hardens with vibration and can/will split and crack.
Its a common ailment that gets very little attention. You may choose to restrict the collection or use of your personal information in the following ways: We will not sell, distribute or lease your personal information to third parties unless we have your permission or are required by law to do so. Upgrading the stock fuel hose or hardline with braided fuel line helps it to last longer, add more protection from leaks, and improve the looks for show vehicles. We only use this information for statistical analysis purposes and then the data is removed from the system. Hardline does not expand. We may use the information to customise the website according to your interests. It needs to be well supported to prevent fractures, especially around fittings. Theres no way to visually check the condition of a braided steel, rubber-lined hose. Was a synch to take it apart and add them and bolt it back together again. From just a survey perspective, most of my dual line customers run stainless hardlines, most of my single line customers run braided. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses and fuel lines (not E85 compatible) Notes: Running this hose very close to exhaust manifolds and turbos is not recommended, however it will hold up better than 100 series. Good luck.
Come join the discussion about popular models such as the Mustang, Galaxie, Falcon, Fairlane, Torino, Shelby and many more! This may prevent you from taking full advantage of the website. Will not melt or burn. This material is impervious to the degenerative effects of fuel that also creates a vapor barrier so fuel vapors cannot leak past. Ideally, to fix a fuel line leak, you should replace the line or seals if it has them. I don't think that the rest of the hardlines are in that great of a shape anyway. Aluminium Hardline - As the name suggests, this is an aluminum tube or hardline roll. Any good resources? It is not recommended to use sealants or products that patch up a leak as these will not work for very long and could get into the fuel system and clog it or break, causing a potential fire hazard while driving. A forum community dedicated to Factory Five owners and enthusiasts. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses and fuel lines (not E85 compatible) Traditional braided line is still rubber hose at the core. If the line is rubber it will need to be replaced. Therefore, we cannot be responsible for the protection and privacy of any information which you provide whilst visiting such sites and such sites are not governed by this privacy statement. On my AE86 project, I cut off the offending section of hard line as close as was practical, hit up GRM and found a friendly local with a flare tool who came over and flared the end of the hard line, adapted to AN, and ran a short section of braided flex lineso far, so good! Earls recommends wrapping the hose in Teflon tape and using a sharp razor cutter to perform 90 percent of the cut, finishing with a pair of sharp scissors. Subscribe to our newsletter and we'll keep you up to date on our products and services. First I have to say Wow!
You are now signed up to receive JEGS Deals with text alerts! 1/8 pipe to -4 male. We may change this policy from time to time by updating this page. Do this by hand or you might damage the threads. We arecommitted to ensuring that your privacy is protected. Press J to jump to the feed. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses, fuel lines, E85 and pretty much anything. Rubber to the hard line after the pump and when you you are snaking through the K. Run that hard line to the rad support and terminate it before the regulator. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses,fuel lines, E85 and pretty much anything. The only fittings I have is where I'm connecting to tank, filter, pump and carb, i.e. Thank you! It's easier in my opinion and later if you need to run them a little differant it is easier. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The first O-ring (4) allows the fitting to swivel once tightened while the second (5) is a special fluoroelastomer seal that is impervious to all fuels. If you notice any leaks, you need to fix them before starting and driving the vehicle due to the fire hazard that could result from use. 7. Earls -6 UltraPro convo PTFE hose, 20 ft. Earls -4 AN 90-deg. POM Dec/2010 & Feb/2011. Carry on.
Holley has also come up with a less expensive rubber hose called Vapor Guard, intended for either carbureted or EFI applications. Starting with the fittings, Earls uses 2024-T8 aluminum and black anodizes the finish (1, 2, 3). The black nylon overbraid will melt! 12. If you disagree with any part of these terms and conditions, please do not use our website. You should exercise caution and look at the privacy statement applicable to the website in question. Braided line is available in stainless steel or nylon. freq may vary. Thats never a good question to ask. Cons: Not recommended for turbo oil drains or E85 fuel. IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!! If there is a break in the line that isnt on the end, and it is low pressure, you can use a compression fitting . A quick check is what we call the crinkle test. If you grab a hose and flex it and you can hear a crinkly sound, the hose is dried up and junk. Heres what he did with polished stainless hard line on an LS3 hes building. Msg & data rates may apply. Re: fuel hard line vs braided suggestions. But on hot rods that are driven infrequently, the fuel line experiences multiple cycles of wetting and drying. The rest is done in Startlite from Aeroquip with AN fittings throughout. Nobody likes fire. One problem with PTFE style hoses is that it is susceptible to kinking due to the plastics inelastic nature. Each hose has different advanatges and disadvantages depending on the required application. i ended up using summit alum 1/2 inch from the regulator in front of front shock tower, Vintage/Classic/Historical Engine Tech, 3V Performance Engine & Valve train Development, Race Cars & Parts - For Sale or Wanted. So I'm going to have to fix what I have one way or the other. We use ethanol compatible lines. Pump gasoline has undergone a major evolution in the last 20 years and its reformulation includes a government-mandated addition of 10 percent ethanol that everyone blames for the degradation of fuel lines. The Startlite is very easy to work with and I like what I think is a more vintage look versus the hotrod look of the ss braided. This only works with low pressure applications. Please take a moment and Register today. Finally, along the lines of hoses and fittings, Holley has also introduced a simple steam fitting kit for LS engines that is downright cool. There may be a return line from the regulator to the tank depending upon the pump I buy. I am not running fuel injection. Be sure to retain the white tape over the hose so it doesnt unravel. Buying a quality fuel hose and hardline can be overwhelming and confusing. Our ABN is 60 163 443 007. 8. From time to time, this website may also include links to other websites. AWS certified welder. 100 Series - This is a rubber hose with braided stainless steel over the top. Overall, cookies help us provide you with a better website by enabling us to monitor which pages you find useful and which you do not. You acknowledge that such information and materials may contain inaccuracies or errors and we expressly exclude liability for any such inaccuracies or errors to the fullest extent permitted by law. Purchasing performance hose & steel hardline for your car, truck, or suv provides a lot of benefits. A cookie is a small file which asks permission to be placed on your computer's hard drive. The ferrule (6) creates the seal between the PTFE hose liner (7) and the outer covering (8). Either stainless (harder to bend & flare) or the NiCop (nickle copper alloy). A small amount of air may initially escape from between the fitting and the hose. Cons: Not recommended for turbo oil drains or E85 fuel. 10. The term you refers to the user or viewer of our website. I am going to be running braided with AN fittings. Next, twist the olive in between outer braid and the hose. I used 3/8 inch copper nickel tubing for my fuel lines. If you have a leaking fuel line connector, the first and preferred option is to replace either the connector or the line that contains it.
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Everything inside the tank is in great shape. There are many different factors to consider when shopping for hose and hard line products including different brands, prices, warranties, performance capabilities, and much more. Pros: This hose is great for oil coolers, breather hoses and fuel lines (not E85 compatible) Summit Racing Aluminum Fuel Lines SUM-G2512, Russell 634180: Twist-Lok Hose -08 AN | JEGS, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). Where the line can be well supported - I'd use aluminum hardline (aircraft use this almost exclusively). 1967 Falcon 4 door 351C - 70 Mustang 351C, .The Aluminum is OK, I don't have any real complaint - but I got to thinking that the difference in price between aluminum and steel isn't really that much, so .. why not step up - besides, I'm a little more confident when it comes to, I was aware the angle was different, but either didn't realize or forgot. FFR 5197 Mark II Roadster 427w Complete 6/28/2006, Braided SSTL with AN fittings would look better and be more robust than aluminum hardline.
JavaScript is disabled. Might make routing harder. Running e85 or methanol might warrant SS. Cons: Not recommended for turbo oil drains or E85 fuel. Hey guys, I've been looking all over for some threads or topics on replacing the 280z hardlines with braided PTFE lines. Archive - line up to the front to a pressure regulator. They are also very easy and in my opinion, quite fun to assemble. JavaScript is disabled. Stainless is your better bet. As you might expect, the hose and fittings are more expensive than rubber-lined braided hose. All rights reserved.
Braided line and all those fittings cost more and add weight over the hard line/rubber hose. Earls straight -6 AN hose end, 3/8 barb. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising.
These include a safe and secure connection to provide years of leak-free service for your vehicle. 2022 JEGS High Performance. The first option is to try spiraling the hose to give you the entry and exit angles you need, if the space will allow it. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are now signed up to receive great E-Mail Offers! Note the sealing O-rings. Reply HELP for help or STOP to opt out. Graduation thread with my progress links is, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, http://s829.photobucket.com/albums/zz220/gtfireftr/MK4/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. We may use your personal information to send you promotional information about third parties which we think you may find interesting if you tell us that you wish this to happen.