:) We have had 3 freezes now and so far so good! One method is a TEK screw securement method, and the other is a bolt and nut attachment method: The other reason Double Channel Poly Lock and Spring Wire is so valuable as a building component is that you could more easily replace a cover. Below is a picture of this piece of hardware along with the corresponding piece of wire that holds the plastic in place. I covered the interior of those walls with 3/4" foil backed foam panels, and insulated the base and lower wall with covered straw. To take a look at our product page for the channel WITH the wire included,click here. It is evident that the double channel is more robust in its width and rigidity. Below we cover the four best ways to attach coverings to metal framing on high tunnels, greenhouses, and hoop houses. I have covered the northernmost side and roof with used 6 mil uv resistant heat retaining poly. This feature makes Poly Lock Channel one of the most important for building a high tunnel or hoop house. Do not install the plastic on a windy or rainy day. When purchasing this hardware component, be careful to read the fine print, because not all suppliers will include the necessary wire along with the Poly Lock Channel itself. Has anyone tried to make thier own clips from slightly larger diameter pvc cut into short lengths and with a lengthwise section cut out? :) Guess I will find out if we ever get some.
We recently reroofed their house and found the sola tube domes had turned brown and were disintegrating.
BigDogue -- Thank you so much for the tip about the black poly pipe. Poly Lock Channel is secured to metal framing usingSelf Tapping Tek Screws.
Because of its rigidity, double channel is often used as a way of eliminating and replacing lumber sometimes used on a Hip Rail of a structure. (4) Im not sure how Ill manage an entrance on the other end maybe just overlapping flaps. I have been struggling with the same question, and searching for answers! How are you trying to retain heat?
The same quarts planks were used as the three shelves in the recessed wall nook/niche. They have over 100 how-to videos. we explore some of these below. 50 mph wind so far and it's held without the staples tearing out. Let's take a look at an affordable attachment option that is also intended to be the primary top cover attachment option. Purchased house in Feb, realtor gave me the one we are using for this "dilemma!". With the above being said, Snap Clamps are a fantastic way to hold panels of plastic in place (temporarily) while you are securing pieces in a more permanent manner. For this reason, structures using this method of greenhouse plastic attachment are vented by simply pushing the plastic up the side of the tunnel to allow air to move in and out of the structure.
Thank you for the Pic! Also, the tape won't tear when you staple through it. Detail of the recessed nook/niche.
I can put a box fan behind the radiator to circulate the heated air.
^_^, This is what I used for stapling to wooden frame. Use a product in your home office, binder clamps. Here is a link that might be useful: Snap Clamps.
Waaaayyyyy to busy and I need to slow down! HERE'S MY REAL PROBLEM: (1) I need to secure sheeting to the ends (which, in this location will have to take a good bit of wind).
It's 12 degrees outside this morning. We use it at the Greenhouses that I work at on the weekends, I just figured it was expensive until I looked at it. We did a complete do over and reinstalled with velux 14 and 10 tubes.
Two examples of how Double Channel is installed to metal framing can be seen in the two videos below. KayJones ~ is your Florida room screened in for summer use? RELATED: Best Greenhouse Plastic - Comparing Through First Hand Experience. Kristi is right - make sure the plastic is tight - that's where the Duct tape comes in handy. The benefit of this hardware component is that it creates a contiguous seal.
This sounds daunting because you will need to screw through the channel, and into metal, BUT Tek Screws are designed to drill through the channel AND the steel tubing beneath. Hard to get on but they hold well.
Double Channel Poly Lock comes in 6 ft., 8 ft., and 12 ft. sections although if you are looking to purchase this material in the least costly way possible, you would likely want to purchase pieces that can ship via ground shipment, and these can be found here: are great for certain applications, and not for others. Dreaves, and others, lots of great ideas here! Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I dont see how the poly pipe clips would work here. I bought the 48" length and cut them 4" each. Here is a link that might be useful: GreenHouseMegaStore Snap Clamps. Out of desperation, I did some stapling, but I know this is not a decent or lasting solution. It can replace lumber, is light and easy to work with, lasts forever, and is easy to use. The Double Channel Poly Lock system is not as widely used for securing Greenhouse Plastic since its double wide shape is not needed for most applications. The roofers only choice at the time was to pull off the old sola tube domes and cover them with 22 and 14 velux domes. While the list above provides the hardware needed to attach greenhouse plastic to metal framing, Where on the framing each component should be installed, and. For example, if you accidentally drove a shovel through your roll-up side, and you used Double Channel Poly Lock on the Hip Rail, you could simply un-wire the bottom run of wire in your Hip Rail, cut the plastic beneath the top run of wire, and you could replace the roll-up side plastic without ever touching the plastic attachment for your top cover. I have straw bales around the perimeter, weighing down the plastic on the side walls of the 8' tall 13x16 or so hoop structure. During the years, any tears that happened were repaired with a clear 3M duct tape. This post is from:http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1291535/, www.FarmTek.com has amazing videos showing construction ideas on attaching skin to hoop houses. 6 WEEKS TO TURN THIS HOUSE INTO HARBOR TOWN BUNGALOW!
After the channel is secured, the plastic is installed into the channel by using a corresponding piece of Spring Wire; This makes it nearly impossible to pull the plastic out of this channel after it has been secured. all year. If you want to secure greenhouse plastic permanently, or semi-permanently. If you think double channel would work for your project, you can take a look at.
Oops ~ just noticed your location. My, how studly! Hardie tile backer board installed, all seams taped/mudded, then all painted with Redguard waterproof paint. Shaker Heights, OH 44120. The two sidewalls are 24x12 porcelain tiles in a complimentary gray, with some greige and white accents in it. It can replace lumber, is light and easy to work with, lasts forever, and is easy to use. Whether you have a gothic style greenhouse, a Quonset tunnel, or a flat end-wall face, you will find that the Spring Wire Poly Lock Channel attaches firmly to the framing with self Tapping Tek Screws.
(2) Then I need to secure the first sheet to the end arch. It is affordable, will last forever, and is very easy to use. I found Snap Clamps at Green House Mega Store work well with 3/4" PVC.. but watching the videos has been helpful. Im putting down black ground cloth, which might help keep the ground warm. Old window removed. If you are using 3/4" PVC, the large Bulldog clip, which you can get from Staples or any office supply store, will hold these too. This way, they butt up to each others' ends without any break in their span. I put hoops over my raised beds.
Spaced-overlapping wooden strips 3.
This is primarily due to the fact that Snap Clamps don't secure the plastic contiguously the full length of a tube.
Here is a link to the best double channel that we have found: The best hardware for attaching pieces temporarily, or for interior greenhouse partitions are Snap Clamps. Again, the black poly pipe might work. If this is what you are looking for, here you can find Snap Clamps that fit three different tube diameters: Yes, you can daisy-chain a ton of these one right after the other to create full length attachment of your greenhouse plastic, and yes you could drive a self tapping metal screw through each one of these and into your metal framing, however, if you were going to go through that trouble it would make sense to install, Caterpillar Tunnels vs Hoop Houses - Low Cost Growing Structures Compared, Why Caterpillar Tunnels Have Become Popular Growing Structures, If you are looking for some rope for your rope and pressure system, there is, 3/16" diameter rope and 1/4" diameter rope, The best hardware for attaching greenhouse plastic is. The only thing that was outsourced was the install of the tile, and connecting water lines of the new shower fixtures which required the plumbing in the wall to be changed. Pros- this is an older message, but I thought you might still be interested. : 1. wire-lock 2. Attach the plastic to the frame with large binder clamps. You are some kind of builder - looks like a great little greenhouse!!!
After the channel is secured, the plastic is installed into the channel by using a corresponding piece of Spring Wire; you'll wiggle the Spring Wire back and forth over the greenhouse plastic and into the channel, and you'll have secured your plastic to your greenhouse structure firmly. This way, Another reason this securement method is so popular is that, Spring Wire Poly Lock Channel typically comes in 4 ft., 6 foot, 8 foot, and 12 foot pieces, however, they are most commonly sold in. In your zone, that may help retain the temperature better. Snap clamps are great for temporary greenhouse plastic attachment, or in instances where low wind pressure and stress will be applied to the greenhouse plastic. Thank you!
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/polypropylene-batten-tape/covering-accessories, I had built a plant shelter from cattle panels and covered them with plastic. That said, this is a great way of holding plastic to smaller structures that are often referred to as Caterpillar Tunnels. If this is what you are looking for, here you can find Snap Clamps that fit three different tube diameters: Snap Clamps. Clipping on the end arches is then still an option or you could close the ends by tying the plastic(extending at ~2times the height beyond each end) in a bunch and securing it at the ground with a heavy stake. The benefit of this hardware component is that it creates a contiguous seal.
Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the Davesgarden.com, http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/polypropylene-batten-tape/covering-accessories, http://davesgarden.com/community/journals/viewentry/115015/, http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=hog+rings+and+pliers&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=6835375328&hvpos=1t3&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1807880141887987098&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_1j4gry6pu5_e, http://www.poly-tex.com/pages/accessories/replacement/Wigglewire/wigglewire.html, http://allthingsplants.com/thread/view/6100/My-homemade-greenhouse/, http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1291535/. Below is a video that shows the process for installing the Spring Wire in the wiggle motion I mention above: While Spring Wire Poly Lock Channel is very easy to use for securing greenhouse plastic, the channel itself must first be attached to the metal framing of your structure at any points you want the plastic to be secured. This guy had a similar idea although probably different application. HELP! For the reason above, the potential time savings from installing a Double Channel Poly Lock system for your high tunnel is huge. (3) I need to connect the successive plastic sheets together over the arches every 10 feet.
Well, debris was landing on the indoor diffuser rings. This bathtub (my guess is it was made by American Standard) has beautiful vintage curves in and contour lines to it that may (or may not) be a thing of the past, And it is the most fitting in ideal style for our 1951 Cape Cod style home. I am working on my own hoop house now, and used their site to figure out how to put the skin over the whole thing as well as the end panels. Not knowing what you want to overwinter in your plant shelter but you might also consider using a bubblewrap for insulation under the plastic. Here is a link to manageable 6 ft. pieces that include the Wire:Single Channel, The best hardware for attaching greenhouse plastic as a hip rail is Double Channel Poly Lock and Spring Wire.
In my experience if it is loose, it will be more prone to tearing. If you are going to be building a high tunnel, hoop house, or greenhouse you may be wondering how the greenhouse plastic is attached to metal framing. Very easy to use. I cover my Florida room every fall with 6 mil.
I think I will line the fence with 2 sheets of plastic. New window in, time to demo pink tile down to studs! OMG! Since that side of the house faces south, it gets plenty of light.
First off I'm using a 20k BTU Heatstar LPG heater as my primary. Additionally, each of the above methods for attaching greenhouse plastic will need to be installed a little differently than the next. I often hear of people making clips from black poly pipe. Right now, all I can come up with is pulling the overlaping sheets together on the inside, folding it over and stapling it in a fold of denser plastic (milk carton) as batting.
I have bought 6 mil. I will try the black poly pipe clips BD suggested, and I'm open to other ideas. Yes, it's screened in.
It should be noted that this is also a more risky way of holding the plastic on your structure if you are intending to keep the plastic in place permanently. See the picture below that shows how two pieces might line up at their ends. For my cattle panel house I stapled the bottom edges into the boards around the bottom edge. For flowers, some cannot stand summer heat and sun, like the pansy. plastic sheeting in 10'x 25' rolls.
I used the black poly pipe from a roll I cut into 4" strips. What is rainwater? That is actually what I have been looking at.
Instead, the Snap Clamp holds the plastic at the point of the Snap Clamp, which is only approximately 4 inches in length.
I suspect you receive some radiant heat from the brick wall of the house to make it through those frosty nights. I put a strip of felt down on top of the plastic and stapled through it to the boards. We get lots of high winds here, off the mountains, and staples alone won't hold plastic.
Since lumber hip rails tend to deteriorate in the humid moist conditions of a greenhouse it makes sense to use the Double Channel on its own. In this climate, it became tattered from the sun and wind. Instead of using spring clips on the end I used a pipe clamp to attach a 12" piece of PVC then folded the ends in and attached them to the pipe with another piece of the snap clamps.. Sola tubes cannot be found in our immediate location and sola tube no longer makes 16 tubes. The space that I am trying to convert is about 24' x 5'2" so I don't think bubble wrap will be cost effective.
Trim any excess greenhouse plastic from around the base of the cold frame. Here is a link to the best double channel that we have found:Double Channel Poly Lock with Wire. Please note that these photos were taken before our tile installer did the grouting, which was done with "Natural Gray" epoxy grout made by Laticrete, and the the grey color of the grout is AMAZING. This greenhouse plastic attachment method is essentially two pieces of the Single Channel Poly Lock, but instead they are side by side (as shown above). We don't get that here! I tried to link it here and can't. Spring Wire Poly Lock Channel typically comes in 4 ft., 6 foot, 8 foot, and 12 foot pieces, however, they are most commonly sold in six foot pieces due to the fact that they can ship relatively affordably in that length. Let's go through each attachment method one at a time below, and cover: The first, and most popular greenhouse plastic attachment hardware on the market isSpring Wire Poly Lock Channel. Right now it is only letting me choose one. This makes it nearly impossible to pull the plastic out of this channel after it has been secured. 4 Ways to Attach Greenhouse Plastic to a Metal Frame - Do it Right the First time, Best Greenhouse Plastic - Comparing Through First Hand Experience, Attaching greenhouse plastic to metal framing is. I attached each one to a 4x4 frame make out of cedar fence pickets and then attached them to the house with hinges and voila! My boss has some short greenhouse panels that I am going to see if he will let me have. Snap clamps are among the most simple to use greenhouse plastic attachment hardware, however, they are only applicable for structures with a set outer diameter to their metal tubing. Drape the greenhouse plastic over the PVC frame so it is centered.
It took a while for us to figure out what to do with this bathroom, but now we could not be happier. http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=hog+rings+and+pliers&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=6835375328&hvpos=1t3&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1807880141887987098&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&ref=pd_sl_1j4gry6pu5_e It is evident that the double channel is more robust in its width and rigidity. What are the pros and cons of solatube vs velux solar tubes Waterproof Window Treatment for Wood Window in Shower? It appears that you want to keep the structure very simple but I'd suggest using a "C" clamp to attach(screw) the PVC to a 2x4" (preferably treated) wood base. The sale of the property, including the good greenhouses I've been using, was unexpected, so I am scrambling to save my plants. I am just getting my materials list together and will be ordering next month. But search Farm Tek You Tube then installing end panels or doors on hoop houses. Double aluminum channel is very similar to Single Aluminum channel except it provides twice the channels, and thus, twice the securement potential. I am wanting to turn between the side of my house and my 7 ft fence into a small greenhouse for overwintering. Below the picture we dive a bit more into how this type of attachment hardware works, what its best applications are, and more. Then I screwed a strip of 1x2 over the plastic, folded the edge up and stapled the plastic to the 1x2. I attached my PVC with cedar strips and self drilling screws.
Along with one wall being the brick on the house, I will also be using a heater to keep it hopefully around 50 degrees F. Thank you for all your help! They fit tight. This message was edited Dec 21, 2012 8:50 PM. The four primary ways are listed below, and more detail is provided on each method: While the list above provides the hardware needed to attach greenhouse plastic to metal framing, some make more sense in certain scenarios over others. I also used it to seal any loose seams and it held remarkably well, far better than regular duct tape.
Single Aluminum Channel is so popular among greenhouse builders that there is also a double channel option that should be considered during specific aspects of any poly installation.
I have ordered from them a number of times. Here is a link to manageable 6 ft. pieces that include the Wire: The best hardware for attaching greenhouse plastic as a hip rail is Double Channel Poly Lock and Spring Wire.
These pieces of hardware are installed one right after the other. I know you enjoy it in winter when enclosed. I used a heater in it a couple of winters ago, but for the most part, I don't. Place one clamp toward the top of the frame and the second toward the bottom. Any future replacement will be with heavier triple wall to defray the increased material cost. Oops ~ sorry. Lay the plastic in the afternoon sun for 15 to 30 minutes to allow it to warm to make stretching it easier. To prevent the wind from shredding your plastic, I would look for a heavier mil plastic. Im concerned that plain radiant heat would go straight up and dissipate through the cold plastic. For a closer look as to how the Snap Clamps work when attaching plastic to the metal roll bar on a greenhouse side, check out the video below: If you are going to be installing greenhouse plastic for a top cover of a structure it would be strongly advisable to consider one of the other hardware items covered earlier in this blog post. You can see an example of Double Channel Poly Lock in the picture below. If you think double channel would work for your project, you can take a look at the type we carry. For best results use a polyethylene greenhouse plastic covering, which can be found at garden centers.
More on that in the 'Solar heating with 55 gallon drums' thread. I attach the plastic with black Duct tape and secure it with staples through the plastic and tape. It should act as heat storage to store the suns' heat. If you are working with a structure that is comprised of a different type of tubing that doesn't line up with the diameters listed here you might as well move on to the other hardware items listed in this post. I have tried framing the plastic in duct tape and then stapling it to a make shift wooden frame, but the winds come from the south almost always, and started ripping the plastic off. Drive a U-shaped ground stake with a rubber mallet through the plastic into the ground every 6 feet along the length of the hoop house on each side. You can see an example of Double Channel Poly Lock in the picture below. Double Channel Poly Lock comes in 6 ft., 8 ft., and 12 ft. sections although if you are looking to purchase this material in the least costly way possible, you would likely want to purchase pieces that can ship via ground shipment, and these can be found here: Double Channel 6 ft. Lengths . Clamping and wiring is not the only way to keep plastic against a metal frame; there is also pressure. If you want to secure greenhouse plastic permanently, or semi-permanently, or if you need to install greenhouse plastic on a section of metal framing that curves, this hardware component is for you. Perhaps you might ask him for more details. These pieces of hardware are installed one right after the other. My parents installed 16 and 10 sola tubes over 20 years ago.